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sueky71
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newspaper articles/obituaries
« on: Wednesday 01 August 07 16:19 UTC (UK) »

hi,
just looking for an opinion on whether or not it is worth while searching through the archives of newspapers for articles/obituaries?
alot of my dad's side were from the renfrewshire and midlothian areas but they appear to have been quite poor, i presume that would have had to pay for an obit?
also where should i begin, with regard to what newspapers i should be looking in?
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Re: newspaper articles/obituaries
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 14 August 07 18:40 UTC (UK) »

Hi

Can't help with Midlothian afraid but for Paisley the local paper records are all held on fiche at the Paisley Library. This tho only covers paisley and Johnstone and some Renfrew papers.

Thier email is loocstuds.els@renfrewshire.gov.uk

Hope this helps

Ann
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Torrens, Thompson - Tyrone & Fermanagh,Connolly, Campbell - Monaghan & Cavan, McGovern, Carroll, Orr - Ireland
Connolly, Fulton, Stirling, Cameron, McKellar, Robertson, McGovern, Torrance, Bisland, Fraser, Hamilton, O'Hara, McAusland, McTaggart , Lambie, Twedale, Hart, Clark(Paisley/Barrhead/Glasgow)
McGovern, Liddell - Falkirk
Mair, Muir, Carroll, Stewart, Law, Orr - Lanarkshire
Torrance - Brisbane
Connolly , Robertson- NSW
McGovan(?), Robertson , Agnew-
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Re: newspaper articles/obituaries
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 14 August 07 18:40 UTC (UK) »

Sorry I mistyped that email addy. Is

locstuds.els@renfrewshire.gov.uk

Ann
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Torrens, Thompson - Tyrone & Fermanagh,Connolly, Campbell - Monaghan & Cavan, McGovern, Carroll, Orr - Ireland
Connolly, Fulton, Stirling, Cameron, McKellar, Robertson, McGovern, Torrance, Bisland, Fraser, Hamilton, O'Hara, McAusland, McTaggart , Lambie, Twedale, Hart, Clark(Paisley/Barrhead/Glasgow)
McGovern, Liddell - Falkirk
Mair, Muir, Carroll, Stewart, Law, Orr - Lanarkshire
Torrance - Brisbane
Connolly , Robertson- NSW
McGovan(?), Robertson , Agnew-
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Re: newspaper articles/obituaries
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 01 January 09 16:18 UTC (UK) »

hi
thank that answeres the question i was going to ask , i take it it cant be done online ?
also i am looking for a death on a Uncle who was killed in a accident at work ,he worked for Coates Threadmill , and at that time the Family lived in Newton Street , i am sure the death willbe before 1927 , but not exact on this
be grateful for any help
thanks
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Re: newspaper articles/obituaries
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 01 January 09 21:25 UTC (UK) »

As Ann suggested, contact the Paisley Library.   Not only do they have the old newspapers on fiche,(check covering dates)  they have name and year indexes for the newspapers.

It used to be that you looked up your chosen surname, then christian name, in the  relevant  time frame index, this then told you which edition of newspaper etc., that it was in.  Librarian would then fetch the massive , bound volumes for you to read the full article.

It must be so much easier now , (and quicker) with the fiche.  Obviously it still could be time-consuming depending on the surname and how many indexes have to be searched.  Maybe the indexes are now computerised, I don't know, as it's a few years since I've used the library. 

However, I found the staff so very pleasant and eager to help, so it's worthwhile dropping them an e-mail.
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Re: newspaper articles/obituaries
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 01 January 09 21:30 UTC (UK) »

thanks
i did email them the other day , they gave me this add, it isnt possible for me to get to Paisley at this time ,
maybe one day
thanks for help
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Re: newspaper articles/obituaries
« Reply #6 on: Friday 02 January 09 22:14 UTC (UK) »

also i am looking for a death on a Uncle who was killed in a accident at work ,he worked for Coates Threadmill , and at that time the Family lived in Newton Street , i am sure the death willbe before 1927 , but not exact on this
be grateful for any help
thanks

Hi Jannette, will reply to this thread rather than your other one.  I can have a go at looking in the Scotsman online archive for you.  Fatal accidents from around the country could be reported even though it's Edinburgh focused.  If you want to give me his name and maybe a better idea of date I'll have a go.

And that offer extends to OP too. 
If any of your ancestors died in an accident, or Midlothian ancestors were involved in something notable I can have a look.  For obituaries you're right where the Scotsman's concerned anyway - it would only be likely if they were at least middle class upwards. 

Lora  Smiley
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MCADAM (Rosneath, Greenock, Troon, Ayr, Glasgow) HAYES (Cork)
MCINTOSH (Perth, Aberdeen, Glasgow)
HOWDEN (Lothians) PAGAN (Borders, Lothians, Otago NZ)
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Re: newspaper articles/obituaries
« Reply #7 on: Friday 02 January 09 22:23 UTC (UK) »

hi Lora
i didnt think on the Scotsman , i could get to Edinburgh , just not Paisley ,
if you think they might have something ,
My Brother thinks one day in the summer he might come up from down south and have a look ,
but i think its a needle in a hay stack  and sadly i have no dob , or age or year of death ,
only guessing before 1926 , and his name was James Stewart
sorry thats a bummer lol
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Re: newspaper articles/obituaries
« Reply #8 on: Friday 02 January 09 23:27 UTC (UK) »

Hi Janette

Do you know his parents names?

Have you looked on Scotland's People. If he died before 1957 his death cert will be there this is where knowing his parents names is key.

Ann
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Connolly, Fulton, Stirling, Cameron, McKellar, Robertson, McGovern, Torrance, Bisland, Fraser, Hamilton, O'Hara, McAusland, McTaggart , Lambie, Twedale, Hart, Clark(Paisley/Barrhead/Glasgow)
McGovern, Liddell - Falkirk
Mair, Muir, Carroll, Stewart, Law, Orr - Lanarkshire
Torrance - Brisbane
Connolly , Robertson- NSW
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Re: newspaper articles/obituaries
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 03 January 09 00:09 UTC (UK) »

Yeah I think it's worth a go looking for the death cert.  I thought searching for such a common name as James Stewart would be pretty impossible without spending an absolute fortune, but actually if you search for James St*art d. 1900 - 1930, age 15 - 65 in Paisley + Paisley Burgh you get just 12 hits. 
2 of them have potentially identifying middle names which you might be able to work with - James Kerr Crai- [cuts off] Stewart and James Cowan Stewart - if it is one of them your laughing, if you doubt it's either of them at least your down to 10 possibles which is workable.  Having a better idea of his age would help.  When was his brother/sister i.e. your father/mother born? 

Lora
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MCGINLAY (Donegal, Glasgow)
MCADAM (Rosneath, Greenock, Troon, Ayr, Glasgow) HAYES (Cork)
MCINTOSH (Perth, Aberdeen, Glasgow)
HOWDEN (Lothians) PAGAN (Borders, Lothians, Otago NZ)
NEILSON (Airdrie) KINNIBURGH (Shotts, Airdrie) HOUSTON (Ballymena, Airdrie)

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Re: newspaper articles/obituaries
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 03 January 09 10:36 UTC (UK) »

hi Lora
no none of these names do ring a bell ,Grada was James Cameron Stewart ,
Gran Janet Buchanan Crawford , she was from Rutherglen
re ages . again stuck , but i remember a search a long time off my Granda died i am certain July 1957/8 he was 69 , Gran i think died around dec 1952/53
an Aunt was born 1898? i think , as she was around 7 years older than my Mum born 1905
Granda folks were James Stewart -Mum Elizabeth Cameron , and they died when my Granda was young , as he was classed as an Orphan , not much is it
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Re: newspaper articles/obituaries
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 03 January 09 12:30 UTC (UK) »

If only more parents gave middle names. I searched again with a better date and age range and voila 
Stewart, James Cameron, age 38, 1941, Paisley/Renfrew 573/01 1720
So he died much later than your family thought but the Christmas date is right.  27th Dec at 4.50am

He was a starch worker, working in Wotherspoon's Starch Works, not Coats Mill as it turns out.  His address is given as 22 Newton Street.  Parents James Cameron Stewart and Jessie Crawford.  His arm was caught in a shaft. 

I'll send you the death cert and RCE entry. 

Can't see anything in the paper after all, but I think the RCE entry tells you everything you need (or want) to know.   Sad
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MCGINLAY (Donegal, Glasgow)
MCADAM (Rosneath, Greenock, Troon, Ayr, Glasgow) HAYES (Cork)
MCINTOSH (Perth, Aberdeen, Glasgow)
HOWDEN (Lothians) PAGAN (Borders, Lothians, Otago NZ)
NEILSON (Airdrie) KINNIBURGH (Shotts, Airdrie) HOUSTON (Ballymena, Airdrie)

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Re: newspaper articles/obituaries
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 03 January 09 18:32 UTC (UK) »

hi Lora
thanks so much for this , i have been out with his age and place of work ,
i am hoping to try find some more out on other relations
thanks again
jannette
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Re: newspaper articles/obituaries
« Reply #13 on: Friday 09 January 09 17:29 UTC (UK) »

I got photocopies of my gr gr grandad's obituary and burial notices from 1895 from Greenock Library.
I live in Ireland and couldnt go personally bu the lady sent them to me and I then posted the £1.50 that it cost for them.I got his death by chance by looking through the B M D that the Library has online.
If you go onto the library's website you can email them.If its elsewhere in Renfrewshire you might have to look elsewhere too.

Annette 
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Bradley-Inishowen,Donegal
Limerick-Derry/Inishowen,Donegal
Brown  - Inishowen , Donegal
cConway-Inishowen,Donegal
Harvey-Glasgow/Campsie,Scotland
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Carroll-Ireland/Glasgow
McGruer-Cullen,Banff/Glasgow
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Re: newspaper articles/obituaries
« Reply #14 on: Friday 09 January 09 17:45 UTC (UK) »

thanks ,
i managed to get all this now
thanks for reply
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