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1851 and 1861 census lookup requests
« on: Thursday 02 August 07 16:02 BST (UK) »

Hi,
can someone find this girl for me?

It's possible that in 1851 she might be in the workhouse.

Jane Gilbert-born c 1832-born Tallington,Lincolnshire.

The other members of her family who she might be with are:-

Joseph GILBERT-father-born 1797-Tallington
Mary Gilbert-mother-born c 1804-Tallington
Mary Gilbert-sister-born c 1830-Tallington
Martha-sister-born c 1834-Tallington
Solomon-brother-born c 1836-Tallington
John-brother-born c 1840-Tallington

Many thanks
Trisha Grin Grin Grin
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Re: 1851 and 1861 census lookup requests
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 02 August 07 16:10 BST (UK) »

1851 Class: HO107; Piece: 2095; Folio: 338; Page: 6

Morton Grange (I think) Morton

Ann Arden head widow 64 yrs  annuitant b Tallington
Jane Gilbert servant 20 yrs house servant   b Tallington
Jane Lunn 42 yrs cook b Bourn
Edward Gibbons 35 yrs groom b Rippingole

a bit better than workhouse, we hope

will look for 1861
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Re: 1851 and 1861 census lookup requests
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 02 August 07 16:13 BST (UK) »

1861 RG9; Piece: 965; Folio: 17; Page: 4

Manor House Stanground, Northamptonshire

Jane Gilbert 28 yrs housemaid b Tallington

houseowners- Scrimshire, Magistrate and farmer  plus other servants

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Re: 1851 and 1861 census lookup requests
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 02 August 07 16:18 BST (UK) »

wonder if Joseph remarried or do you need to check the wife's name?

1851 HO107; Piece: 2094; Folio: 538; Page: 5

Tallington

Joseph Gilbert 53 yrs   ag labourer  b Tallington
Elizabeth  57 yrs            ditto  b Huntingdon Gt Gidding
Solomon  15 yrs              ditto  b Tallington
John 11 yrs                     ditto  b Tallington

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Re: 1851 and 1861 census lookup requests
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 02 August 07 16:25 BST (UK) »

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=248003.new#new
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Re: 1851 and 1861 census lookup requests
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 02 August 07 16:27 BST (UK) »

yes I've just noticed that Patrish - I was just going to point out that there are two Jane Gilbert marriages on Free BMD where Mr Bradshaw could be a groom- and the 1866 marriage seems to be the one- Peterborough.

I wonder if it's the right Jane Gilbert we have both been looking for?
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Re: 1851 and 1861 census lookup requests
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 02 August 07 16:42 BST (UK) »

No idea Heywood ,  Huh

I have just been searching on another thread that has been duplicated . Roll Eyes
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Re: 1851 and 1861 census lookup requests
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 02 August 07 16:52 BST (UK) »

A little while ago there was a long discussion about this kind of scenario - as was pointed out then - it's the knowing that there is another thread that is important.

As I'm sure other people do, I looked into your profile TrishaG because I wasn't sure if you would want other Gilbert family members. That's when I noticed the other thread and Mr Bradshaw. I then thought that it was a bit iffy as I had found her single in 1861.
I then saw Patrish had spotted Mr Bradshaw with her in 1861 so checked Free BMD. Now I wonder if Jane Gilbert, Tallington has been supposed from the Sheffield marriage or the other way round- that you really wanted Jane, Tallington - and supposed that she married in Sheffield.  Undecided

It is a bit of a disappointment (in terms of time spent) when you find out that all the valuable info has already been supplied - fortunately in this case it was earlier rather than later.  Smiley
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Re: 1851 and 1861 census lookup requests
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 02 August 07 21:09 BST (UK) »

Heywood,
I wasn't trying to do anything "iffy" as you put it.What I was trying to do  was see if the girl who was married to Mr Bradshaw(who someoneon Genesreunited had got in contact with me about)  was my Jane Gilbert on my tree.If they both appeared at the same time on the same census then I would know it wasn't the same Jane Gilbert.There are a lot of Gilberts in South Lincs.
The only thing I should have done was look further on in time on FreeBMD and find the other marriage.
Trisha.
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Re: 1851 and 1861 census lookup requests
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 02 August 07 21:12 BST (UK) »

Trisha- I read my post carefully so that I wouldn't offend or be misconstrued- just goes to show.
I thought my find was 'iffy' -meaning doubtful -  not anything else - as I had found her single and you thought she was married- that's what made me look further.
Glad it's being sorted out now - the family I mean.
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Re: 1851 and 1861 census lookup requests
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 02 August 07 21:13 BST (UK) »

so which Jane Gilbert is yours?
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Re: 1851 and 1861 census lookup requests
« Reply #11 on: Friday 03 August 07 20:56 BST (UK) »

It turned out to be the Jane who had married John Bradshaw in 1866 and is therefore the Jane who is at Morton Grange in 1851 and at Stanground in 1861 where perhaps she met her future husband who was the groom at the house where she was the maid.This is the same Jane who is on my tree.
I'm  very grateful for  all your help with this.Apart from 1881 I can't afford to access any of the census.
I  can now get back to my contact(and distant relative)and help them.
Trisha
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Re: 1851 and 1861 census lookup requests
« Reply #12 on: Friday 03 August 07 22:08 BST (UK) »

anytime Trisha- you know I will help if I can.  Wink
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