ronhen
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Looking for infomation on
Atwell William b 1828/9 married Jane Willis b 1835/6
William parents Samuel Atwell and Sarah Bushell
Jane parents were Christopher george Willis mother listed as Jane--
On their death certs there is a discrepancy on the place of marriage
William's cert reads married Clones Monaghan
Jane's cert reads married Fermanagh
Any help would be greatly appreciated
RON
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aghadowey
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William Attwell (age 22), son of Samuel Attwell, married 29 Sept.1854 Newtownbutler, Co. Fermanagh, to Jane Willis (age 23), dau. of George Willis.
Perhaps they also lived at Clones, only a few miles down the road across the border, or perhaps they lived between the two towns.
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ronhen
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to aghadowey from ronhen
Your info cleared up the mystery of the difference on the death certs. William & Jane Atwell migrtated to Queensland Australia when he was approx 22. I am wonderig what was the occupation of the two fathers of William and Jane.
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A copy of the actual marriage certificate should give additional details like fathers' occupations and residence of bride and groom at time of marriage as well as actual place of marriage and names of witnesses.
As they were so close to the border I would suggest searching both Fermanagh and Monaghan when looking for the family in Ireland. Another thing to consider is religion when searching for records here- if they were Protestant the most likely possibilities are Church of Ireland, Protestant or Methodist (there are a lot of Methodists in Co. Fermanagh descended from English settlers).
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ronhen
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Hi
aghadowey
You are right. I am in Queensland Australia and my niece and I have gleaned info from the death cert of the two people. The info is only as good as the relatives that supply the details.
William Atwell Father Samuel Atwell and His wife was Sarah Bushell Occupation given as farmer
Jane Atwell father Christopher George Willis Mother Jane --no surname given occupation of father given as farmer.
No other details about ireland are given. I will have to check if they had any children in Ireland before they migrated to Australia
Ronhen
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Interesting- that might explain Clones/Fermanagh on death certificates. Church of Ireland website lists Galloon (St. Congall) Newtownbutler in Diocese of Clogher and there are contact details.
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ronhen
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Hi
Aghadowey and Maryderry
Thanks for the information That clears up the discrepencies on the two death certs.
Working from Australia is interesting. William Atwell and Jane Willis came to Australia in approx 1856. We are trying to trace the ship etc. But in the BMD's for Queensland we have the birth of 5 children but the deaths later of 6. There must have been children born in Ireland so we will have work on that. But death certs are iffy because the details sre given by a child of the marriage. We are trying to sort out the differences in the two death certs regarding the section headed CHILDREN. I believe Jane willis gave the details on Williams cert and Janes info was given by the son George. The two lists differ so its more work. I was wondering if you can find out if there were any children born in Ireland. If its too much to ask just say so
Ronhen
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Unfortunately civil registration of births in Ireland only began in 1864, well after the Atwells left Ireland, so for earlier records you need to know religion, find correct church and then see if the church records for that period still exist. The church they got married in (Galloon Church of Ireland) may have been the bride's church and not the church (or religion) of the groom but a starting point would be to see how far back the records for it go.
Fianna website gives Galloon Parish Church 1798 but does not specify whether baptisms, marriages, burials, etc. The Church of Ireland General Synod report (1999) says records copied at PRONI (Public Records Office of Northern Ireland). Unfortunately I could not find the church records in LDS catalog.
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Ronhen
Have just come across your chat regards William Atwell and Jane Willis. I am trying to confirm if William Atwell born abt.1829 is son of William and Jane. Would like any other info regards to this family.
Alan Broomhall
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ronhen
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Hi Alan
In reply to your Query. The William Atwell I have on my family tree ATWELL William b abt 1828 fermanagh Ireland
PARENTS
ATWELL Samuel B abt 1808 Fermanagh Ire
BUSHELL Sarah b abt 1814 fermanagh Ire
Williams marriage
married Jane Willis b abt 1831 have no marriage date
William died in Brisbane Q Aust 1895.
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ronhen
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Hi Alan
William Atwell b 1829 had 12 Children 1 of whom was also William b 28 Jun 1864.
Ron Hendry
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Ron
Have a connection to Harriet Atwell daughter of William Atwell born 1859 married to Mary Hellier . Are they connected to William & Jane Willis??? I only have 5 of William & Jane's children recorded! What are the rest. I can be contacted at (*) Would love a hand with this if connected.
Much Appreciated!!
Alan
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Ron,
I am originally from Brisbane, Queensland and have only started searching the BD & M and Have George, Margaret Daniel & Christopher as Children but want to know if William born 1859 is their child also!
Alan
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Hi Alan
My e-mail address is (*) please contact me there and give me your e-mail address and I'll send the info
Ron H
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