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Re: "Pioneering New England" lookup offer
« Reply #15 on: Monday 06 August 07 07:16 BST (UK) »

He could have walked it. I would imagine many would have in those days.
I have been collecting old maps and coach routes from warwick-tamworth and reading about the road in the 1850-80's, trying to understand and imagine what it was like traveling between Queensland and Tamworth.
Hehe had to imagine at times when i scoot along at 100km/h up the New England HWY.
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« Reply #16 on: Monday 06 August 07 08:28 BST (UK) »

...when i scoot along at 100km/h up the New England HWY.

Why only 100, Mick?  Wink Grin

Seriously though, I guess alot of people did walk vast distances "back in the day".  He could also have hitched lifts on coaches or waggons.  I wish when I was younger I'd known that my Haynes ancestors were early-ish settlers in that area - would have made mum/dad stop along the road to Sydney from Brisbane as we headed south every Xmas to visit cousins!  The Haynes family arrived in two parts - one lot in 1841 and one in 1842 - and travelled from Sydney to the Armidale area by bullock waggon (imagine!!  Shocked  ).  They worked for Marsh on his "Salisbury Court" property, and then when Marsh bought "Boorolong" they moved up there for quite a while to manage it.  That's where old Ned Haynes lived when he hand carved the wooden fire surround that still stands at Salisbury Court.

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« Reply #17 on: Monday 06 August 07 08:50 BST (UK) »

 Grin 100 is safe to say!hehe

How cool would it be to take a plaster cast of the fireplace and get another made for your place from the cast! Grin

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« Reply #18 on: Monday 06 August 07 09:01 BST (UK) »

It would be very cool indeed (or warm, as the case may be).
The current owners of Salisbury (my mate  Wink Sir Owen Croft and his wife) were kind enough to take some piccies of the fireplace for me - one is attached FYI  Cheesy


* Fireplace-salisbury-RC.jpg (79.53 KB, 729x473 - viewed 42 times.)
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« Reply #19 on: Monday 06 August 07 09:04 BST (UK) »

Wow, would they mind donating it to me!hehe it is sensational, the work is amazing!
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« Reply #20 on: Monday 06 August 07 09:06 BST (UK) »

No way - I've got first dibs on it!!
Apparently he carved it all with a penknife  Shocked  Obviously being a shepherd gave one lots of free time!
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« Reply #21 on: Monday 06 August 07 09:11 BST (UK) »

Free time or not, it is beautiful! The hours it would have taken even with todays tooling, would make it worth a fortune to make.
Thanks for sharing! His calling was sure carving.
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« Reply #22 on: Monday 06 August 07 09:14 BST (UK) »

Thanks Mick  Smiley
Sorry I hijacked the thread a bit, but I suppose this is kind of on-topic.  Besides, it's my thread, so I suppose I can do what I like with it!!

Cheers
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I live in NSW, and am researching:
BALFOUR (Derry) – BIGG (Kent) – BONSALL (DBY, NTT, CHS) – BRISBANE (Fife) – DANKS (STS) – DOBSON (BRK) – FRANCIS (ESS) – GOODE (HAM) – HAYNES (Cork) – INGRAM (MDX, SOM) – LANGWORTHY (Jersey, DEV) – MCKAY (Fife, Aberdeen, Banff, Moray, Inverness) – MORRISH (LND) – NANCARROW (CON) – OGILVIE (Moray, LND) – STRATHDEE (Banff) – SWAN (Fife) – WOOD (LND)
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« Reply #23 on: Monday 06 August 07 09:17 BST (UK) »

Hi Prue and All,
Now you've got me enthralled with this piece of work.
I am one of those people who actually looks at the pattern in cast iron lace-work and tries to identify things in it.
Now in this lovely mantle  I can clearly see a very 'thistley theme 'in the top part beautifully stylized, but totally recognizable.
But what kind of leaf and plant life do we have in the lower part?
I wonder if it is native to his new region or carved from memory from his home region.
 
Some people might say
'Does it matter?'
I say greatly!!

Sue
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« Reply #24 on: Monday 06 August 07 09:44 BST (UK) »

My guess {and im not good at this sort of thing} is that its a blackboy fern in the lower section and bottle brush{banksia} above Huh
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« Reply #25 on: Monday 06 August 07 10:09 BST (UK) »

Hi Sparrett  Cheesy
Not sure what the motifs are  Undecided  Very stylised versions of whatever they are - Mick I think you may be right about the fern, and possibly a waratah/banksia/protea at the top?
Here's a snip of what Owen Croft wrote to me about the fireplace.  Also I've included a bit of info about a local historian and a request from Owen for information about families who worked on the Marsh properties:

The carved mantlepiece is a feature in our dining room at Salisbury Court and I understand is was made as a wedding present for my grandfather, Sir Hugh Croft who managed Boorolong Station from 1896 to 1919, when he moved to Salisbury. We have just had some work done on it and the timber used was tallowwood which is amazing being so hard. Also I understand that he did all the work with pocket knives rather than wood working tools.
...Arnold Goode  "Spring Creek" Uralla would be your best bet as his is a remarkable local historian.
...Matthew Marsh was my great,great grandfather. I would be interested in any information you have of your family as I am gradually accumulation histories of people who worked on any of the three Marsh properties, Salisbury Court, Boorolong, and Maryland (near Stanthorpe)


So if anyone has connections, let me know, and I'll put you in touch with my buddy Sir Owen  Wink Grin
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« Reply #26 on: Monday 06 August 07 12:53 BST (UK) »

Oh Yes!!'
I can now see the flower is not a thistle at all! It is a kind of hybrid at some glances of maybe a Banksia/Protea/thistle. That's why the leaves are not right for thistle.
It must be a very special piece as the earlier woodworkers from UK reproduced what they were good at which was Uk flora.
I think also yes about the fern.
Sue
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