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jez78
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Married in Newport Pagnell 1905 to Florence Mobbs, emigrated to Australia in 1913, but can't find any other reference to him anywhere, born about 1881
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Pels.
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Hi jez,
Have you considered his name might have been spelt as Birch?
I'm only guessing but there is this family living in Burnham, Buckinghamshire in 1881, but Henry would have been born about 1877. Parents: Henry and Elizabeth
1881 census:
RG11/1461, folio 64, page 14
If you think this a possibility I can forward these details from 1891.
Kind regards,
Pels
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Robert & Karon
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Hi jez,
For us mug Aussies, which county/area/ county is your Henry Burch/Birch/Berch most likely to have been born in?
Trouble is that Newport Pagnell appears in an area known as Milton Keynes in MSN maps.
Only to happy to scan for you if I have the information
Cheers
Robert
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I live in Bathurst, NSW, Australia Check the "Surname Interest Table" at the bottom of most screens to check all my SURNAMES. SHEPHERD, ALSOP, GIBBS, ANDREWS, COLBORN - Gloucestershire KELK, COATES, LEEMAN - Lincolnshire STANGER, POLLARD, HASLAM, WRIGHT - Surrey MATTHEWS, POOK & COBBETT - Somerset BAILEY, COLLINS, McDOWELL - Australia, then who knows where in UK? For more family names visit: http://www.robertshepherd.tribalpages.comVisitor password: 1596 |
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jez78
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Thanks for the replies folks, but I'll say as much as I know, I have a copy of a steamship ticket which gives the name BURCH, and he is aged 32, his wife, who was my aunt, also 32 was born in Newport Pagnell, probably why they married there.
His present address at the time was given as Cheddington Bucks prior to sailing.
I seem to remember many years ago another aunt saying they lived in South St. Leighton Buzzard before they left.
Which is about 300 yds from where I'm sitting now.
Sorry to say I can't walk as far as there now.
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rjknott
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A possible:
Birth
Henry James Birch
Leighton Buzzard Mar 1883
1901
RG13/1508
33 Dudley St, Leighton Buzzard
James Birch, 39, estate carpenter and painter, b Grove, Bucks
Harriet Birch, 39, wife, b Milton Keynes, Bucks
Henry J Birch, 18, son, carpenter and joiner apprentice
Florence H Birch, 2, dau,
William J Birch, 10, son,
Walter C Birch, 7, son,
Henrietta Birch, 5, dau,
Frederick T Birch, son, 8m children b LB
Florence is a servant at 29 Lake St nearby.
Can give you earlier censuses if you want.
Richard
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Knott,Boutell,Warman,Winder,Webster,Uings,Evans,Drage
Pike,Pike,Watson,Pratt,Homewood,Stephenson,Brown,Pattison
Holmes,Tomlinson,Moorby,Cardus,Gill,Lambert,Binns,Emmott
Fenning,Pudney,Wilson,Walker,Hine,Treeby,Knox,Butler
Jack,Carswell,Gardiner,Alexander,Gibb,Watson,Naismith,Telfer
Gray,Inglis,Gibb,Watson,Taylor,Taylor,Gaff,Henderson
Gayford,Clarke,Palmer,Jessup,Smart,Hutson,Lloyd,Northover
Ridley,Lee,?,Mingings,Moore,Colthart,Lawson,Hind
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jez78
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rjknott, thanks for that , there's no doubt that's the one, he's on the ticket as a carpenter and joiner, and it's only a couple of hops from South St. to Dudley St.
Thanks again,
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PS
Earlier census would be very welcome.
jez
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Robert & Karon
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Hi again,
This may be Florence as a child in the 1891 Census
Civil Parish – Bow Brickhill
Village – Bow Brickhill
Rural Sanitary District – Newport Pagnall
Parliamentary Division – North Bucks
Joseph Mobbs Head M 37 Bricklayer Newport Pagnell, Bucks
Mary Mobbs Wife M 34 Stoke Goldrington
Lilly M Mobbs Dau 11 Scholar Newport Pagnall
Florence E Mobbs Dau 9 Scholar Newport Pagnall
Amy S Mobbs Dau 5 Scholar Bow Brickhill, Bucks
Arthur T Mobbs Son 3 Bow Brickhill, Bucks
Regards
Robert
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I live in Bathurst, NSW, Australia Check the "Surname Interest Table" at the bottom of most screens to check all my SURNAMES. SHEPHERD, ALSOP, GIBBS, ANDREWS, COLBORN - Gloucestershire KELK, COATES, LEEMAN - Lincolnshire STANGER, POLLARD, HASLAM, WRIGHT - Surrey MATTHEWS, POOK & COBBETT - Somerset BAILEY, COLLINS, McDOWELL - Australia, then who knows where in UK? For more family names visit: http://www.robertshepherd.tribalpages.comVisitor password: 1596 |
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jez78
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Thanks Robert, yes that is them OK
cheers
jez
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rjknott
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1891
RG12/265
Dudley St, Leighton Buzzard
James Birch, 29, carpenter, b Grove, Bucks
Harriet R Birch, 29, wife, b MK
Henry J Birch, 8, son, b LB
Annie B Birch, dau, 6, b LB
Louisa R Birch, dau, 4, b LB
Florence K Birch, dau, 2, b LB
William J Birch, 2m, son, b LB
Richard
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Knott,Boutell,Warman,Winder,Webster,Uings,Evans,Drage
Pike,Pike,Watson,Pratt,Homewood,Stephenson,Brown,Pattison
Holmes,Tomlinson,Moorby,Cardus,Gill,Lambert,Binns,Emmott
Fenning,Pudney,Wilson,Walker,Hine,Treeby,Knox,Butler
Jack,Carswell,Gardiner,Alexander,Gibb,Watson,Naismith,Telfer
Gray,Inglis,Gibb,Watson,Taylor,Taylor,Gaff,Henderson
Gayford,Clarke,Palmer,Jessup,Smart,Hutson,Lloyd,Northover
Ridley,Lee,?,Mingings,Moore,Colthart,Lawson,Hind
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rjknott
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In 1881 James is a carpenter's labourer, lodging in Leighton Buzzard.
1871
RG10/1563
Three Locks, Soulbury
John BURCH, 42, carpenter, b Wigginton, Herts
Ellen Burch, 39, b Chesham, Bucks
Edwin Burch, 17, son, painter
Charlotte Burch, 14, dau, b Billington, Beds
James Burch, 9, son, b Grove
Herbert Burch, 6, b Grove
Isabella Burch, 3, dau, b Grove
Charlotte Bunce, 58, b Wigginton
Richard
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Knott,Boutell,Warman,Winder,Webster,Uings,Evans,Drage
Pike,Pike,Watson,Pratt,Homewood,Stephenson,Brown,Pattison
Holmes,Tomlinson,Moorby,Cardus,Gill,Lambert,Binns,Emmott
Fenning,Pudney,Wilson,Walker,Hine,Treeby,Knox,Butler
Jack,Carswell,Gardiner,Alexander,Gibb,Watson,Naismith,Telfer
Gray,Inglis,Gibb,Watson,Taylor,Taylor,Gaff,Henderson
Gayford,Clarke,Palmer,Jessup,Smart,Hutson,Lloyd,Northover
Ridley,Lee,?,Mingings,Moore,Colthart,Lawson,Hind
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jez78
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This is interesting stuff Richard.
Thanks
jez
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rjknott
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1851
HO107/1716
Wigginton, Herts
Joseph Burch, 56, shepherd, b W
Hannah Burch, 52, wife, straw plaiter, b W
Lydia Burch, 30, dau, straw plaiter, b W
John Burch, 26, son, labourer, b W
Mary Burch, 19, dau, straw plaiter, b W
James Burch, 13, son, straw plaiter, b W
Joseph Burch m Hannah Batchelor on 25 Jan 1820, Wigginton, Herts
This and much more is on IGI.
The supply of census returns etc for Mobbs/Birch is (almost) limitless. If you want any I'm sure someone will post them.
The places/dates of birth make most of these ancestors likely but a few certificates would help! The weakest link is probably at the start.
Richard
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Knott,Boutell,Warman,Winder,Webster,Uings,Evans,Drage
Pike,Pike,Watson,Pratt,Homewood,Stephenson,Brown,Pattison
Holmes,Tomlinson,Moorby,Cardus,Gill,Lambert,Binns,Emmott
Fenning,Pudney,Wilson,Walker,Hine,Treeby,Knox,Butler
Jack,Carswell,Gardiner,Alexander,Gibb,Watson,Naismith,Telfer
Gray,Inglis,Gibb,Watson,Taylor,Taylor,Gaff,Henderson
Gayford,Clarke,Palmer,Jessup,Smart,Hutson,Lloyd,Northover
Ridley,Lee,?,Mingings,Moore,Colthart,Lawson,Hind
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jez78
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thanks very much Richard, I shall have to have a look at the IGI and see if I can make sense of it.
jez
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