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Re: 1871 Census Lookup Devon - SIMPSON
« Reply #30 on: Friday 10 August 07 01:09 BST (UK) »
I thought you never slept?  See http://rmhh.co.uk/occup/l.html for lace drawer, similar sort of thing I would imagine

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« Reply #31 on: Friday 10 August 07 02:17 BST (UK) »
Hi

the ROWE"S lived on Boden Rd .... John Rowe who presumably married Sarah Clark lived on Boden rd as a Lace twister ...LOL
when trawling through this rd I have seen the 'CHINA' family!!

ooo how fun !

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« Reply #32 on: Friday 10 August 07 03:25 BST (UK) »
Hi all

Just a few silly questions .....

* Why would John ROWE, a lace twister, and his wife go off to Ireland and have John Rowe Jnr b 1858... I have google lace twisting in Ireland to no avail ... LOL

*We still haven't found John ROWE bc 1858 in the 1861 census , or anywhere after the 1871 census

*Why did gr granny Bertha 'Annie' say she was born in India , I have searched for Simpson's born in India, and there are quite a few, although I cannot find any related to this Simpson family .... i think digging further may reveal an India connection although I am not sure where!..... could gt Granny , Bertha "Annie' have been on ship when born , but her parent's only registered upon their return.....

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« Reply #33 on: Friday 10 August 07 07:17 BST (UK) »
Deb, do you ever sleep either?  I think a posting on the Irish board might help, Nick - I don't have access to much Irish info

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« Reply #34 on: Friday 10 August 07 14:13 BST (UK) »
Hi and good morning Smiley

I asked someone with Irish resources to look for John Rowe born 1858 in Ireland ... There were obviously quite a few from different counties but , alas, no record of our John Rowe with his parents ! Undecided Sad

in 1861:
Sarah Rowe nee Clarke is a widow and servant, sans John Rowe her son!

We have to find him ...I will follow up with all the extended family to see where he is ....I don't think Sarah would have left him in Ireland !

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« Reply #35 on: Saturday 11 August 07 00:22 BST (UK) »
Coming in late...my body is giving me fits and I am waiting for meds to kick in.

I am just getting started really in English research, and am unsure of how to work with some of the resources, esp. as pertains to obtaining records.

John Simpson b. 1842 was in Royal Marines (1881 census).  Obtaining his service record would probably be lucrative. 

If Anne was b. India?  I am beginning to doubt this because of 1871 census data you provided.  The  recollection of my older sister and mother was that she commented on my grandparents venetian blinds (early 1950s) saying, "We had those in India when I was a child."  Further discussion resulted in her saying they were there until she was 7, and that she was born aboard ship en route.  My research has proved enough family legends false that I am always wary of them.

John Rowe in Ireland - will check on junior's proof of birth there.  Here is another possibilty:  these were not well educated people, nor I suspect were the census takers (altho latter COULD write).  Perhaps the response to John jr's birthplace was something that simply sounded like "Ireland", e.g "aurland" or "arlen", etc.  Can't recall now if it shows up more than once.  Did I mention before the possibility that his daddy was in military at the time?  Wild guess.

Ah!  Such a tangled web...

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« Reply #36 on: Saturday 11 August 07 00:46 BST (UK) »
Quote from: nickgc on Saturday 11 August 07 00:22 BST (UK)
John Simpson b. 1842 was in Royal Marines (1881 census).  Obtaining his service record would probably be lucrative. 

A look-up post on the military board might help with this one!

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« Reply #37 on: Saturday 11 August 07 00:49 BST (UK) »
Just reviewed all the posts in this thread.  Here are a couple of probable irrelevancies but might be worth something.  

The reason in my initial post that I mentioned the name "Prichard" is that in the 1891 census the youngest dau of John and Sarah is "Louisa Prichard Simpson".  This is obviously more like a family name than the normal middle name.

Second:  I found a  George Cutcliffe in 1881 census while looking for the elder Geo. C. on http://www.familysearch.org/

He too was a tailor, and likely son of elder Geo. and brother of Sarah.  Was living in Bideford, Devon, b. ca 1815.

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« Reply #38 on: Saturday 11 August 07 01:25 BST (UK) »
Quote from: nickgc on Saturday 11 August 07 00:49 BST (UK)
The reason in my initial post that I mentioned the name "Prichard" is that in the 1891 census the youngest dau of John and Sarah is "Louisa Prichard Simpson".  This is obviously more like a family name than the normal middle name.

It seems so long since then, I'd forgotten about Prichard. Hold on, where did you see the Prichard? In 1891 census it's just Louisa and she's listed as Grandchild

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« Reply #39 on: Saturday 11 August 07 01:52 BST (UK) »
I wish I would quit making stupid errors by relying on my recollection.

Here is what I have, and I don't believe I have the actual 1891 census (can' find right now).  I made a leap of faith from BMD info.  So if she is a grand daughter, WHOSE I wonder?  If a Simpson must be out of wedlock.  Annie and Jessie only suspects. 

"This child shows up as 6 years old in 1891 census.  The only BMD Record that is close is as follows:  Simpson Louise Prichard Hereford 6a 608 (Jun qtr 1885)."

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« Reply #40 on: Saturday 11 August 07 02:07 BST (UK) »
1891 on its way to you!  I didn't see that birth record tho. What about Ellen M, could she be hers?
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« Reply #41 on: Saturday 11 August 07 02:47 BST (UK) »
Ah yes...Forgot about Ellen since she is new to me.  I can't thank you enuf for today's info.  I owe you big time.  You stay up too late also.  Smiley

re Charles:  great stuff!

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« Reply #42 on: Saturday 11 August 07 14:16 BST (UK) »
Hi  Grin

Just checked Louisa Simpson b 1885, the grdau in 1901:

She is a servant, 15, unm, in Linton Herefordshire, working for the Clews family(farmer). I thought that we may have found her with her mother ...no luck!

I also tried to find Harriet Simpson b 1875...she could also possibly be Louisa's mother.,,,oooo this may be Harriet's death ...

Harriet Maud Simpson
b abt 1874
died Dec q 1887
Hereford, Herefordshire

So Louisa's mum could be:
Annie, Jessie or Harriet

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Re: 1871 Census Lookup Devon - SIMPSON
« Reply #43 on: Saturday 11 August 07 18:46 BST (UK) »
Quote from: deb usa on Saturday 11 August 07 14:16 BST (UK)

Harriet Maud Simpson
b abt 1874
died Dec q 1887
Hereford, Herefordshire

So Louisa's mum could be:
Annie, Jessie or Harriet

Or Ellen, as Barbara posited.

If Harriett Maud is right family she would have only been about 13-14 when she died and 11 when Louisa was born.

But good info.

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« Reply #44 on: Saturday 11 August 07 18:52 BST (UK) »
ooopssss  Embarrassed

too eager too post...LOL

I am still looking around .... I wonder if 'Prichard" was put in just to show who the father was.... I am looking around for Prichards who may have lived near them.....I think ordering Louisa Prichard Simpson's birth cert amy be the only why to find out for sure, I can't see any other birth reg for a Louisa simpson, at the right time or place !

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