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maggie smith
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Mary Tiplady
« on: Friday 10 August 07 12:51 BST (UK) »

I am trying to find the death of Mary Tiplady, She Married William Tiplady in Mar 1898 at Tyneside.  She was my Great grandmother.  Her first husband Thomas Heslop was killed in a mining accident in 1891. But I am unable to find her birth as on her first marriage cert she was 28 in 1882, and on the 1901 census she was 53.  Please can you help me find her Birth or Death Cert. 

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Re: Mary Tiplady
« Reply #1 on: Friday 10 August 07 13:01 BST (UK) »

Hi Maggie
What was her maiden name?    Who was her father? Have you found her in any other census records?   It would help if you can quote references if so.
Where have you looked for the birth and death?   Can we assume you have searched the full GRO index?
Every little bit of infromation you have helps.
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Re: Mary Tiplady
« Reply #2 on: Friday 10 August 07 13:13 BST (UK) »

The Mary married to William Tiplady is born in Seghill according to the 1901 census but I cannot see a match for a Mary Heslop in 1891.  When did Thomas die.  Was he still alive at census time?
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Re: Mary Tiplady
« Reply #3 on: Friday 10 August 07 13:42 BST (UK) »

There is a Thomas, coal trimmer, married to Mary on the 1891 census and they have lots of kids.  However this Mary is born in South Shields.   I think I shall wait for further factual information from you.
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Re: Mary Tiplady
« Reply #4 on: Friday 10 August 07 13:45 BST (UK) »

Is this thread connected? http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,164522.15.html

to save going over old ground
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Re: Mary Tiplady
« Reply #5 on: Friday 10 August 07 16:19 BST (UK) »

Thanks Barbara.....
Mary Richardson born Seghill shows up with parents John and Sarah in 1861 and 1871.  Her date of birth is around 1848 in both cases.  In 1881 she is still with her parents but shown as married - Mary Gillespie - and someone has put an amendment against the transcription to say alternate name is Mary Richardson.
Not sure what to make of that but it does mean you should be looking for a birth around 1848.  She probably lowered her age at marriage if she was older than Thomas.  Do you have her second marriage certificate?
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Re: Mary Tiplady
« Reply #6 on: Friday 10 August 07 18:06 BST (UK) »

Hi Sillgen,

Thank you for your reply.  I have the marriage cert of Thomas and Mary Richardson, the death cert of Thomas and the marriage cert of Mary and William.  The one thing that I need to complete the branch is Mary's birth cert.  On the 1901 census she is Mary Tiplady, and the children she had with Thomas  ahve the surname Tiplady.  But she is approx 10 years older.

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Re: Mary Tiplady
« Reply #7 on: Friday 10 August 07 18:23 BST (UK) »

What is her father's name and occupation on the marriage certs? That would help ascertain if the family found on the censuses might be her.


Reading through this quickly, my first thought is that there are two different people here! But i have found it quite muddled (perhaps that is just me... its been a long day!)

Might be an idea to start again with the most recent definte facts about the definitely correct Mary. Are you descended from Mary and Thomas Hislop, or Mary and William Tiplady?
Then if you post the full details from the relevant marrige cert (inc dad's name and occ, marital status and ages of bride and groom etc)
Also have you got the birth cert of one of their children? I guess your grandmother/father. What maiden name does that give for their mother?

Sorry if I am going back over old ground, but I cant get my mind round it as it stands! And I wondered if I was the only one.

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Re: Mary Tiplady
« Reply #8 on: Friday 10 August 07 18:40 BST (UK) »

Hi Lizdb,

Firstly the sur name is HESLOP not HISLOP

Mary Richardson daughter of John and Sarah Richardson, sister of Floranna.  Married Thomas Heslop on March 4th 1882 at St John's Newcastle on Tyne.  They had 4 children John George, Mary Elizabeth, Florrie (Floranna), she was my grandmother, and Sarah.  Thomas was killed in the mines on13th Jan 1891.
On 12th Sept 1898 Mary Heslop (Widow) married William Tiplady at Earsdon. she was 50years old and he was 52. I am unable to find Thomas and Mary on any of the census, but I have found  Mary and William Tiplady on the 1901.  The childrens surname is Tiplady, but they were not adopted, my grandmother was a Heslop when she married in 1907.
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Re: Mary Tiplady
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 03 May 08 09:21 BST (UK) »

Hi Maggie
Mary Richardson was born in seghill she did alter her age when she married or grt  grandfather and when she became Mary Tipalady she put her age back up so John Richardson married  Sarah and had five children   Mary born 1849  William born 1851 Florance born 1857 & Isabell born 1870     
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Re: Mary Tiplady
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 03 May 08 13:08 BST (UK) »

Hi Jip,

Thank you every so much for your reply.  The family thought this might have been the case with her age, now we have proof.

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Maggie
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