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Paynes of East Grinstead
« on: Sunday 12 August 07 15:25 UTC (UK) »

Hi

I wonder whether anyone on this site is descended from the Payne family of East Grinstead.

I am looking for William Payne who was born about 1750 and married Sarah Durrant in Ringmer in 1770 and then had 6 children all in East Grinstead.  He had a son Edward in 1780 who married a Jane unknown, the parents to John born 1807 in Lingfield, Surrey.

There seem to be crowds of Paynes in East Grinstead at the time and I wondered if anyone out there on Rootschat has had any luck trying to sort some of them out!

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Re: Paynes of East Grinstead
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 28 October 07 17:28 UTC (UK) »

Can anyone tell me because East Grinstead always confuses me, where would the parish registers for East Grinstead be kept, Surrey, East or West Sussex?  Undecided

Thanks

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Re: Paynes of East Grinstead
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 28 October 07 17:55 UTC (UK) »

Kerry

These days, East Grinstead is in West Sussex; the ancient parish was in East Sussex.

There is a OPC for East Grinstead

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Re: Paynes of East Grinstead
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 28 October 07 18:03 UTC (UK) »

Thanks Chris

Of course, I just thought that SFHG may have East Grinstead records which would save be trawling all the way to Chichester.

And I will check out the OPC too  Cheesy

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Re: Paynes of East Grinstead
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 28 October 07 18:56 UTC (UK) »

there are numerous Paine/Payne entires for Sussexon both familyhistoryonline and IGi unf. familyhistoryonline is PPV and i don't have any credit and most of the entires on IGI for East Grinstead / Ardingly are submitted.

if IGI is to be belived ths is what i have worked out:~
(s) = submitted entry   (e) = extracted entry:~

Richard Payne m. Mary Pallatte and had the following children (East Grinstead unless specificed)
Richard b. abt 1692 d. 18 March 1725 (s)
Charles 14.11.1702 (s)
Robert 21.02.1693 died 29.04.1755 (s)
Thomas 19.09.1706 m. Hannah 1736 d. 31.08.1763 (s)

Thomas Paine m/ Joane Vennoull and had the following children (Ardingly unless specified)
Richard 02.11.1839 (s)
William 13.04.1583 (s)
edward 25.12.1586 (s)
John 25.03.1581 (s)

Thomas Paine b. abt 1532 Ardingly (s)
children of Thomas b. abt 1532, George 03.05.1558 & Edward 12.08.1565 both submitted

Ann Payne b. abt 1631 East Grinstead m. Frances Tomset 20.04.1652 buried 11.08.1658 (s)

Ann Payne b. abt 1604 East Grinstead m. William Wickens 15.05.1625 (s)
Richard Payne b. abt 1606 East Grinstead m. Susan Wickens 08.09.1631 (s)
Robert Payne b. abt 1762 do. m. Lucy Wickens 24.08.1787 (s)

Cecil Spencer Payne b. 17.10.1875 (s/o George Spencer Payne & Annie Knight) Forest Row m. Ada Alcorn Painter 03.10.1905 Danehill died 03.10.1906 Forest Row
(this entry has bee submitted twice)
BMD has this birth Spencer Cecil Payne Q4 1974 East Grinstead 2b 136

i saw this birth when trying to clarify Cecil Spencers / Spencer Cecils.
BMD birth Spencer Payne East Brinstead Q3 1873 2b 125   

back to IGI
John Payne b. 21.02.1662 East Grinstead s/o Richard Payne & Elizabeth Alecocke m. Blanch Bulleine (s)
Elizabeth Payne b. 1689 East Grinsetad d/o John Payne & Blanch Bulleine m. John Smith 04.08.1710 (s)

Edward Payne & Elizabeth Newman had the following children in East Grinstead
Charity 22.09.1659 m. John Turner 29.01.1677 Ardingly (s)
John 14.02.1663 d. 05.12.1880 East Grinstead (s)

George Paine 26.10.1589 Stone Ardingly s/o Richard Paine (s)
Richard Paine 01.10.1564 Ardingly s/o John Paine (s)
Edward Paine 09.02.1564 Lodge Ardingly s.o John Paine & Joane (s)
John do. b. abt 1533 Lodge d. 16.05.1595 (s)
Thomas do.  b. abt 1559 Ardingly (s)
Richard  do. b. abt 1560 Stone (s)
Edward do. 20.03.1585 Stone Ardingly s/o Richard (s)
Henry do. b. abt 1573 Ardingly m. Joan Broacker 27.02.1597 bur. 19.01.1632 (s)
Katheline Payne b. 06.07.1695 East Grinstead d. 09.03.1770 d/o Edward & Timothy Payne (s)

Thomas Paine 23.08.1584 Ardingly s.o Richard Paine & Joan Nicholas (s)

from the  full BMD there were 302 entires for Payne Births in East Grinstead alone (1866-1920)  137 marriages &  191 deaths
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Re: Paynes of East Grinstead
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 28 October 07 19:35 UTC (UK) »

Hi toni

I think I have checked familyhistoryonline for my William but I will have another look because I am not sure. 

Apparently there are various families of Paynes in East Grinstead, presumably all from the same line originally, it would be ironic if they weren't. Roll Eyes

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Re: Paynes of East Grinstead
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 28 October 07 19:49 UTC (UK) »

carrying on with IGI ((S) Submitted (e) extracted):~

Richard Paine b. abt 1557 Ardingly m. Joan Nicholas 14.10.1582 (s)
children of Richard Paine & Joan Nicholas:~
Thomas 23.08.1584 Ardingly (s)
Richard 14.05.1587 do. (s)

Thomas Paine b. 1619 Hoak Ardingly s/o Richard & Joane

Francis Paine b. 10.05.1568 Ardingly s/o John (s)

Leonard Paine b. abt 1545 Ardingly m. Mary Drew 2.04.1570 (s)
Francis Paine b. 22.12.1583 Ardingly s/o Leonard Paine & Mary Drew bur. 12.03.1628 (s)
William Paine 18.04.1580 Ardingly s/o Leonard Paine & mary Drew (s)
Henry Paine b. 03.05.1573 Ardingly s/o do. (s)

Richard Paine b. abt 1634 Ardingly (s)
Richard Paine b. abt 1600 Ardingly (s)
Richard Payne b. abt 1612 do. m. Anne Pickham 26.05.1637 Lewes (s)

Benjamin Payne b. abt 1777 Ardingly (s)
Richard Payne b. 21.04.1803 Ardingly s/o Benjamin Payne & Susanna (s)


John Paine b. abt 1604 Ardingly m. Joane Ilman 10.06.1629 bur. 15.06.1677 (s)
Alexander Paine b. 06.03.1629 Ardingly s/o John Paine & Joane Ilman (s)
Richard Paine b. 29.12.1640 Ardingly s/o John Paine & Joane Ilman (s)
John Paine b. 23.09.1632 do. s/o do. (s)
William Paine b. 21.10.1638 do. s/o do. (s)

Alexander Paine b. abt 1645 Ardingly m. Thomasin Balcomb 20.04.1670 (s)
Alexander Paine b. 09.04.1671 do. s/o Alexander Paine & Thomasin Balcomb (s)

Thomas Paine of Stone Ardingly m Annis Cumber 26.11.1562 Stone (s)
John Paine b. 19.06.1578 Stone Ardingly s/o Thomas Paine  Annis Cumber (s)

John Paine b. 03.10.1563 Ardingly s/o John (s)
John Paine b. 31.03.1588 Bursty Ardingly s/o Richard (b. abt 1562 Ardingly (s)) (s)
John Payne of East Grinstead d. before 1580 East Grinstead (s)

John Payne b. 14.12.1783 Ardingly s/o Thomas Payne & mary Elsey (s)
Elizabeth Payne 27 04.1791 do. s/o do. (s)

William Paine abt 1614 Ardingly (s)
William Payne abt 1610 Ardingly m. Elizabeth Heyward 20.02.1635 (s)

Henry Paine b. 15.04.1632 Ardingly s/o Richard & Mary (s)

Edward Payne b. abt 1534 East Grinstead s/o George Payne & Agnes bur. 14.06.1599 (s)

Harold George Paine b. 17.11.1871 Forest Row s/o George Spencer Paine & Annie KNight m. Clara Foord Painter 04.06.1900 d. 07.10.1960 (s) - should be able to check this on BMD

Mildred Payne 02.05.1568 East Grinstead s/o Edward Payne & Mrs Katherine Lasco m. John Harmon 28.11.1586 (s)
George Payne 1564 East Grinstead s/o do. (s)
Edward Payne 01.12.1560 do. s/o do. m. Anne Payne 23.12.1583 (s)

Elizabeth Payne b. 30.11.1689 East Grinstead d/o Richard Payne & Anne Fording (s)
Elizabeth Payn 1587 East Grinstead m. William Sanders 01.10.1608 (s)
Elizabeth Payne abt 1707 East Grinstead m. Simon Osborne 20.04.1728 Lewes (s)


Mary Payne b. 15.03.1737 East Grinstead d/o Thomas Payne & Hannah (s) (this matches with the b. of Thomas Paine 19.09.1706 who m. Hannah in 1736 in my first posting (thomas s/o Richard Payne & mary Pallatte) also submitted birth of Mrs hannah Payne abt 1715

John Payne b. 25.06.1665 East Grinstead s/o Charles Payne & Judith Cole (s)
Edward Payne b. abt 1658 do. s/o do. m. Timothy Payne 1684 d. 09.09.1913 (s)

Eleanor Payne b. abt 1580 East Grinstead m. Nicholas Cooper 17.11.1601 (s)

Charles Payne 18.05.1707 East Grinstead s/o Edward Payne & Ann Hickman (oooh i have Hickman connections!) d. 13.08.1793 (s)
Edward Payne 30.04.1711 do. s/o do. (s)
Thomas Payne 1712 do. s/o/ do. (s)

i missed this one form the first post
John Payne 28.02.1708 East Grinstead s/o Richard Payne & mary Pallatte (s)

and i missed this one too!
Richard Payne b. abt 1629 s/o Edward Payne & Hannah Verewood m. Elizabeth Alecockes 21.08.1656 (s)
Edward Payne s/o do. d. 02.04.1689 (s)

Philadelphia Payne b. 01.01.1692 Grinstead (doesnt say East or West???) d/o Edward Payne & Philadelphia Toke (s)
Edward Payne b. 1665 Grinstead (again doesnt dsya east or west) (s)

Agnes Payne b. abt 1546 East Grinsetad (s)

Catherine Payne m. William Cooke 03.12.1613 East Grinstead (s)



(p to entry 1363 IGI)






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Re: Paynes of East Grinstead
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 28 October 07 19:50 UTC (UK) »

ive tried to sepearte them into families and in no info. is availabe into forenames so it easier to sort through i have done up to entry 1363 on IGI
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There is no current treatment
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http://www.petitiontocuresma.com/


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Re: Paynes of East Grinstead
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 28 October 07 19:53 UTC (UK) »

Thanks toni

I shall print it off and have a good look.  You've been very busy!  I've just had a look on familyhistoryonline, didn't find births but I did find burials and a couple of children's burials.

My lot appear to have lived at Legsheath, just south of East Grinstead (where there is a Payne's cottage today) and were in the 15 and 1600s iron masters.

BTW I have Hickmans too!

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Re: Paynes of East Grinstead
« Reply #9 on: Monday 29 October 07 21:29 UTC (UK) »

Hello Kerry,

ESRO used to have transcripts for East Grinstead on the shelves, but I don't know if they have fiche of the originals. I suggest you e-mail them. They were very quick answering a query I had the other day.

WSRO certainly has fiche. The link below will lead you to the dates covered.

http://www.westsussex.gov.uk/ccm/navigation/libraries-and-archives/record-office/family-history/

The SFHG Library has fiche for:
Baptisms 1662 to 1876
Marriages 1662 to 1875
Burials 1662 to 1867

They also have a photocopy of burials at Queens Rd Cemetery 1869 to 1901.
For later burials you will probably have to contact the council.

The IGI coverage for East Grinstead is pretty good and I've not had a problem with the extracted entries myself. The batch numbers are on the OPC page.

That should save you contacting the OPC  Grin

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Re: Paynes of East Grinstead
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 30 October 07 07:38 UTC (UK) »

Hi Phil

Am I right in presuming you are the Phil who is the OPC for EG who I have had contact with  Grin Grin  You very kindly sent me a page of burials.  Went I went to the OPC page I recognised the name!

I will try ESRO, being so close I've not tried contacting them before but I certainly have WSRO and found them very helpful too.  I have foundthe IGI extracted records very useful and found two possibles for William's baptism.

Thanks for the tip

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« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 30 October 07 17:07 UTC (UK) »

That's me  Embarrassed
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Re: Paynes of East Grinstead
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 30 October 07 17:08 UTC (UK) »

That's why I didn't contact you, I already have Grin Grin

The burials you sent me by the way were very useful.  I haven't been through all of them yet but some of them are tying loose ends nicely!

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Re: Paynes of East Grinstead
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 06 August 08 14:17 UTC (UK) »

hi there, i too am descended from paynes of east grinstead. my gt gt grandfather was edward married to elizabeth. my gt grandfather was eli [ had brother enoch and loads more siblings], grandfather was albert son of eli and my mum is alberts daughter. have loads of payne info.
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« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 06 August 08 14:44 UTC (UK) »

Hi tiddlypeeps

Welcome to the puzzle that is the Paynes of East Grinstead.  Since starting this thread I have discovered I was actually looking at the wrong line of Paynes.  Mine now stay in Lingfield a bit longer then came from East Grinstead with a Nicholas in the mid 1700s.

Is there anything we can help you with?  I think Sarahmlife has Edward and Elizabeth Young in her tree.

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