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kerryb
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Hi Pauline and welcome
My Paynes were in Lingfield a lot later on but seemed to cross the border from East Grinstead and West Hoathly, I've only got back to 1700, they may have come from Lingfield in the first place. So it is worth checking both those places too.
Kerry
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kerryb
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Of course not forgetting that Lingfield is very close to the border with Kent also and they may have gone that way - Edenbridge for instance or Marsh Green which is literally down the road from Lingfield is in Kent.
Lingfield is a beautiful village with a lovely church and a fantastic library but a pain to research 
Kerry
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sarahmlife
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Ellen May Buckland nee Ware
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Hi pauline  ,
The payne families from east grinstead, Lingfield, kent etc are quite interesting to research, I think there are 30 diffrent payne/pain/paine familys overall, I've been researching my paynes for 3 years now, Ive also got back to 1700, my lot come from East Grinstead and before that from Chichester. My 2 x great granddad was Edward Payne who was born in East Grinstead in 1815 he married a Elizabeth Young born 1813 in Horne Surrey, which is bout a mile up the road from Lingfield, their lived in Crowhurst near Lingfield from 1841 to bout 1861 at the brickfields there, Edward was a Brickmaker, and when the family moved down to Warlingham surrey, with my great granddad Eli Payne, edward owned two brickfields in Warlingham and Eli Carried it on afterward his dad died.
Sarahx
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The paynes of East Grinstead(Sussex),Lingfield(Surrey), Warlingham(Surrey) and Chichester(Sussex), The Wares of Lambeth (London) and Croydon(Surrey), The Bucklands of Croydon(Surrey),the Bishops of Lingfield,(surrey) and Brighton(Sussex),The Thrussells of Kings walden and st Paul's Walden(Hertfordshire),Lanhams of Felstead Essex and Yorkshire, Tuxworths of Lincolnshire, French's ,and many more....................... Census Infromation Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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kerryb
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Hi Sarah
Hope you are well!
Interesting that, because my Paynes were brickmakers.
Kerry
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sarahmlife
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Ellen May Buckland nee Ware
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Hey honey ,
Yer I think alot of the payne families were brickmakers. Im not too bad at the mo. .
Sarahx
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The paynes of East Grinstead(Sussex),Lingfield(Surrey), Warlingham(Surrey) and Chichester(Sussex), The Wares of Lambeth (London) and Croydon(Surrey), The Bucklands of Croydon(Surrey),the Bishops of Lingfield,(surrey) and Brighton(Sussex),The Thrussells of Kings walden and st Paul's Walden(Hertfordshire),Lanhams of Felstead Essex and Yorkshire, Tuxworths of Lincolnshire, French's ,and many more....................... Census Infromation Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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kerryb
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Crowhurst near Edenbridge 
Generally the Paynes were concentrated in that general area with a few exceptions. There are also a Payne family in Burwash but I don't know whether they link at all.
Kerry
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pjgirt
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Sorry to say I don't get chance to come on here very often, so I'll take the chance to add what I have so far here.
My Pain/Paine/Paynes in Lingfield start with Richard who married Elizabeth White in Lingfield in 1690, so I'm guessing he was born about 1665. They had Richard 1694, Elizabeth 1696, John 1698, Susan 1700, Robert 1702 and possibly two other children, William and Mary. I'm descended from Elizabeth, who married John Knight in 1720 in Lingfield.
It doesn't help that there are two separate Richard Pains having kids baptised in Lingfield at the same time, and no mother mentioned in the registers.
Still, I suppose it all makes life interesting. Several of my other Lingdield families seem to cross over the county borders for a while. Seems Worth and E. Grinstead in Sussex and Edenbridge and Cowden in Kent. Looks like a visit to Maidstone CRO might be in order.
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kerryb
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Hi pjgirt
I don't know whereabouts you are, but a brilliant resource for Lingfield research is Lingfield Library, they have the parish registers there on computer and transcripts and very helpful staff. I spent a couple of afternoons there earlier in the year.
Kerry
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pjgirt
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Hi Kerry
I actually live in Reigate. I've been going over to Woking History Centre as actually it's easier to get to on public transport than Lingfield! I do agree Lingfield is very helpful though, and in a lovely old wealden house. I can't drive at the moment, as I have sight problems. That's a real bind, having to rely on other people to take you places.
Would anyone be interested in the Lingfield parish register entries I've found? If so, I'll try to get them listed out and put on here.
All the best
Pauline
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kerryb
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Hi Pauline
You are indeed lucky then to be able to visit Woking, I visited once about 4 years ago and was really impressed by it, problem is from my part of East Sussex the journey is so tortuous I haven't bothered again. So I go to Lingfield instead.
Actually Woking is probably easier on public transport for me too, probably take up most of the day though, I shall have to check it out.
I'd certainly be interested in the parish register entries. I shall be popping off in a bit to go and have my flu jab but will return later 
Kerry
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pjgirt
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Hi Kerry
Lingfield marriages Paine/Payne
1 Dec 1582 Richard Payne/Mary Nicholas
7 Apr 1594 Robert Young/Joan Payne
28 Apr 1597 Richard Payne/Anne Heathe
3 Oct 1675 William Pain/Susanna Lange or Longe
11 Apr 1676 John Payne/Susanna Langridge
5 Apr 1681 Edward Tapsell/Mary Paine
14 Feb 1684/5 Richard Paine wid/Joan Knight wid
24 Apr 1688 Francis Ebeny/Mary Pain
5 Aug 1688 John Pain/Anne Mayer
22 Jun 1690 Richard Paine/Elizabeth White
10 Apr 1692 Richard Paine/Margaret Coomes (Coomber?)
26 May1695 John Medhurst/Elizabeth Pain
23 Feb 1701 John Payne/Mary Ashdown
23 Dec 1701 Edward Wood/Sarah Pain
9 Jun 1702 John Baker/ ?Elea or Ann? Pain
14 May 1704 Thomas Everist/Anne Pain
11 Jun 1704 Thomas Kemp/Susanna Pain
22 Feb 1709/10 Walter Bish/Anne Pain
Lingfield register Baptisms
9 Apr 1667 William son John Paine
3 Sep 1667 Henry son Thomas Payne
12 Nov 1669 Susanna dau John Payne the smith
16 Jan 1669/70 Mary dau William Paine
4 Dec 1670 John son John Paine
6 Dec 1672 Susannah dau William Payne
5 Mar 1675/6 Anne dau William Payne
12 May 1676 Mary dau Richard Payn
9 Mar 1676/7 Sara dau John Pain
18 Jan 1677/8 Richard son William Paine
30 Mar 1679 Alexander son John Paine
17 Mar 1681/2 Richard son John Pain
3 Mar 1683 Anne dau Richard Paine
21 Mar 1683 John son William Paine
11 Jan 1684 Mary dau John Paine
8 Jun 1684 William son William Paine
29 Nov 1685 Susannah dau William Pain
24 Oct 1686 Anne dau John Paine
4 Apr 1689 Elizabeth dau Richard Pain
4 Jul 1689 Richard son John Pain
13 May 1690 Anne dau Richard Pain
22 May 1691 ------- dau Richard Pain
27 Dec 1691 Mary dau Richard Pain
2 Feb 1692/3 Elizabeth dau John Pain
9 Apr 1692 Elizabeth dau William Pain
27 Jun 1694 Robert son Richard Pain
2 Mar 1694/5 Richard son Richard Pain
24 Jun 1697 James son Pain (Could be Jacob, Jacobus in register)
23 Jan 1697/8 John son Richard Pain
15 May 1698 John son Richard Pain
30 Mar 1700 Ann dau Richard Pain
9 Jun 1700 Susanna dau Richard Pain of Dormans
Lingfield Register Burials
26 Dec 1663 William Paine
28 Jun 1667 Bridgett wife John Paine
21 Dec 1674 Richard Pain's wife
23 Feb 1674/5 John Pain's wife
20 Apr 1682 Alice wife Richard Paine
16 Jul 1683 John son william Paine
3 Oct 1683 Anne wife Richard Paine jnr
13 Jan 1683/4 Mary dau John Paine
22 Aug 1684 Thomas son Richard Paine
26 Sep 1684 John son Richard Paine
16 Oct 1684 William son William Pain
9 Nov 1684 Mary dau William Pain
19 Jan 1690/1 William Paine snr
16 Nov 1691 Anne w John Paine
27 Jul 1692 Elizabeth day William Pain
30 Jan 1692/3 Anne dau William Pain
6 Dec 1694 William Pain
18 Nov 1696 Mrs Pain widow
7 Jan 1607 Elizabeth dau John Pain
1 May 1698 John Pain
30 Oct 1698 Mary wife John Paine
12 May 1701 Mary wife John Pain
15 Jun 1701 Anne dau Richard Pain
6 Aug 1701 Edward son Richard Pain
A lot of the entries were in Latin, but I've put them all in English (or my version of it!). Hope some of it relates to East Grinstead, and it all makes sense. The Lingfield registers arn't in very good condition and quite a bit missing, so I used the transcripts.
It looks like they were smiths and farriers.
Good reading
Pauline
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kerryb
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Thanks Pauline
I have printed off and shall have a good read to see if and what I can fit in.
Kerry 
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pjgirt
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Just a few more I found on another sheet, plus one I missed.
Missed this one – 9 Apr 1696 Elizabeth dau Richard Pain
30 Jul 1701 Edward son Richard Pain
25 Jan 1701/2 William son Richard Pain of Plastow
22 Mar 1701/2 Robert son Richard Pain of Dormans
30 Oct 1702 John son Alexander Pain
15 Apr 1701 Sarah dau Richard Pain
8 Jun 1703 John son John Pain
16 Apr 1704 William son Richard Pain of Dormans
20 Jul 1704 Anne dau John Pain
15 May 1705 Alexander son Alexander Pain
21 Jun 1705 Clemence dau Richard Pain
30 Sep 1705 William son Richard Pain of Plaistow
23 Jun 1706 Sara dau Richard Pain smith de--- (ffabri in register)
5 Sep 1706 Sara dau Richard Pain
28 Jul 1723 Mary dau Richard and Elizabeth Pain
24 May 1724 Richard son Robert and Sarah Pain
6 Jan 1724 Sarah dau John and Mary Pain
12 Dec 1725 Anne dau Richard and Elizabeth Pain
25 Mar 1725/6 Richard son Richard and Elizabeth Pain of Plaister Street
7 May 1726 Edward son Richard and Jane Pain
8 Jun 1726 Elizabeth dau Robert and Sarah Pain
25 Aug 1727 William son Richard and Eliza Paine
13 May 1728 Richard son Richard and Elizabeth Pain of Dormans Land
23 Mar 1728 Robert son Robert and Sarah Paine
5 Aug 1729 William son Richard and Elizabeth Pain
4 Jun 1730 Susabbah dau Richard and Elizabeth Pain
20 Feb 1731/2 Sarah dau Richard and Elizabeth Pain of Dormansland
Pauline
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kerryb
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Thanks again Pauline.
Do your Payne family remain in Lingfield or do they move elsewhere?
Kerry
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