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Info Needed on Emigrant from England pre-1841
« on: Sunday 12 August 07 17:22 BST (UK) »

Hiyall  Cheesy

As part of my one name study I am searching for information on Joseph Tivey who was born 30 July 1809 in Melbourne Derbyshire. All I know about him is that he PROBABLY married a Sarah Hollingworth (this is hearsay as I cant find any evidence as to a marriage yet) He is said to have emigrated to Canada before the 1841 census. (there is a marriage registered in Dec 1841 for a Hepzipidah Hollingworth marrying (with Joseph Tivey one of the possibles) but I dont think this is the marriage as Sarah Bird is also on the list and I know she married a different Joseph Tivey pre 1843 Derbyshire )

Apart from his birth record I have one positive record of him from 1821 when he was 12 years of age and apprenticed to  to John PERRY steel toy manufacturer, Aston, Birmingham, Warwicks.

If anyone has access to Canadian Census info from 1841 onwards I would love to find out what happened to him. The tale that he emigrated is purely family hearsay, so I would like to find more evidence through census or ship's records if at all possible.

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TIVEY, WILDE,
Alker, Barmore, Birchall, Bird, Bryan, Chant, Clare,  Crump, Dow, Edwards, Fairbrother, Faulkner, Frearson, Frogson, Glew, Halliday, Heathcote, Hesford, Holliday, Jones, Knight, Massey, Mather, McKenna, Mee, Melling, Neal, O'Brien, Ottewell, Pimblett, Pinks, Price, Quinn, Rampling, Richards, Richardson, Rowley, Royle, Shakespeare, Shaw, Sheldon, Tandy, Thompson, Wade, Walker,  & more!
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Re: Info Needed on Emigrant from England pre-1841
« Reply #1 on: Monday 13 August 07 00:48 BST (UK) »

Happy Birthday Jan!   Kiss

Although I haven't found any information on Joseph Tivey, here are some books that you can view online for free.

Ourroots
(Tivey's)

http://www.ourroots.ca/e/search.aspx?field=Page&key=Tivey

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Re: Info Needed on Emigrant from England pre-1841
« Reply #2 on: Monday 13 August 07 21:25 BST (UK) »

Hi Jan,

There is a death registration for a Rowland William Tivey born in England c1839, who died in Ontario in 1930 whose parents are listed as Sidney Tivey and Sarah Hollingsworth  Undecided

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Re: Info Needed on Emigrant from England pre-1841
« Reply #3 on: Monday 13 August 07 23:03 BST (UK) »

Here is the same Rowan (or Rowland) Tivey living in Ottawa.

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1901 Census:
District: Ottawa, Ontario
Subdistrict:   St. George

Rowan Tivey
Male   
Lodger
Single
Birthdate: Jan 12 1865
Age: 35
   
There are Tivy's living in Hastings (North) County.

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Re: Info Needed on Emigrant from England pre-1841
« Reply #4 on: Monday 13 August 07 23:53 BST (UK) »

1891 Census
Peterborough
East Ashburnham Village

TIVEY

Rowland
Head
Age: 52
Married
Birthplace; England
English
Church of England
Bridge inspector

Hannah
Wife
Age: 48
Married
Birthplace: England
English

Rowland
Age: 24
son
Birthplace: Ontario
English
Carpenter

Eva
Age: 23
daughter
Birthplace: Ontario
English
Music Teacher

Florence
Age: 21
daughter
Birthplace: Ontario
English

Albert
Age: 20
son
Birthplace: Ontario
English
machinist

Alice
Age: 14
daughter
Birthplace: Ontario
English

Sidney
Age: 9
son
Birthplace: Ontario
English

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Re: Info Needed on Emigrant from England pre-1841
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 14 August 07 04:57 BST (UK) »

1911 Census

Enumeration District: 30
Peterborough West
Ontario
Page: 8
Line 47/48/49
http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/1911a/e081/e002016009.pdf

Tivey Roland    
Head
Married
Birthdate: Feb 1839
Age: 72
Birthplace: England
Immigrated: 1866
Occupation: Carpenter

Tivey Florence   
Wife
Married
Birthdate: Jun 1841
Age: 70
Birthplace: England
Immigrated: 1866

Tivey Albert   
Son
Single
Birthdate: Apr 1871
Age: 40
Birthplace: Ontario
Occupation: Carpenter


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Re: Info Needed on Emigrant from England pre-1841
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 14 August 07 05:40 BST (UK) »

Lydia TIVEY
Christening Date: Apr 9th, 1893   
Holbrook, Derbyshire, England
Father:   Sidney TIVEY
Mother:   Sarah


I don't know if any of these are the family you are looking for, as the father's name was Sidney, but thought I would give this information just in case.

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Re: Info Needed on Emigrant from England pre-1841
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 18 August 07 16:24 BST (UK) »

HiYall

Id forgotten about this post and for some reason havent been notified of any replies  Shocked

Thanks for the Birthday wishes and for everyone's help Grin

It is a coincidence but Rowland is from a different branch of the Tivey family. He is the Grandson of Thomas Tivey & Catherine Dent. His father was Sidney and Mother Sarah Hollingworth (different one!) Rowland emigrated as did his brother Reuben born 1841 Melbourne Derbyshire.

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TIVEY, WILDE,
Alker, Barmore, Birchall, Bird, Bryan, Chant, Clare,  Crump, Dow, Edwards, Fairbrother, Faulkner, Frearson, Frogson, Glew, Halliday, Heathcote, Hesford, Holliday, Jones, Knight, Massey, Mather, McKenna, Mee, Melling, Neal, O'Brien, Ottewell, Pimblett, Pinks, Price, Quinn, Rampling, Richards, Richardson, Rowley, Royle, Shakespeare, Shaw, Sheldon, Tandy, Thompson, Wade, Walker,  & more!
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Re: Info Needed on Emigrant from England pre-1841
« Reply #8 on: Monday 28 April 08 03:42 BST (UK) »

Have you followed up on the Joseph Tivy in Aston, Warwick, England ..b. Derby
on the 1881 census?  He's a boat builder, but may have moved up in scale  Grin
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Re: Info Needed on Emigrant from England pre-1841 ~ NOW COMPLETE THANKS!
« Reply #9 on: Monday 28 April 08 07:24 BST (UK) »

Hi JJ Wink

I now know that Joseph didnt emigrate afterall  Roll Eyes

As you have seen on my post re Joseph in Aston.  I didnt realise this at the time as their ages are different on SOME census and his name was mis-transcribed throughout Shocked

So thanks everyone for looking but it looks like Joseph stayed in Aston as a BOOT Maker (not Boat!!) All I need to find now is his death ~ though it could possibly be mis-transcribed once again!

The other information posted on Rowlands family etc will certainly come in Handy for my one name study.

Many thanks to all who replied.

Cheers Cheesy
Jan
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TIVEY, WILDE,
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Re: Info Needed on Emigrant from England pre-1841
« Reply #10 on: Monday 28 April 08 15:42 BST (UK) »

 I did not know that I knew about your post in Aston...??  Undecided

Grin  I just saw the information in the 1881 and posted... J.J.
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« Reply #11 on: Monday 28 April 08 15:54 BST (UK) »

I just did a search and saw that there were two postings on the Canada board, though and I had answered that one as well, but none informed us until now that you had found him in Aston...

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,173051.0.html
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