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mytree
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Hi
Looking for information on Osmond Turner and his parents and their families please.
Osmond born 1908 Queen Street Darfield. Parents George Turner and Elizabeth Ogden Turner (nee Tipping).
Have possible date of birth for Elizabeth as 1880. George may have had a brother Enoch?
Thanks
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Any census information included in this post is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukAdams, Augier, Bo(u)lton, Brown(e), Cooper, Delanougerede, Desbruslais, Drury, Fisher, Fleury, Fransz, Hale, Holdsworth, Kirk, Mandelli, Michel, Robinson, Skidmore, Thompson,Tipping, Tomlinson, Turner, Wakefield. |
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Tati
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Hi Mytree - Welcome to RootsChat 
I see George and Elizabeth married after the 1901 census (December quarter 1904, Barnsley 9c 411, Elizabeth Tipping - George Turner) which is a shame as they will be harder to spot on census.
This however should be Elizabeth in 1901:
RG13/4319 18 26
Darfield, Yorkshire
10 Queen Street
4 rooms occupied
Rowland Tipping, head, 52, Coal Miner Hewer, b. Derby Winniefield
Jane, wife, 50, b. Barnsley
John Wm, son, unm, 22, Coal Miner, b. do.
Elizabeth, dau, 20, b. do.
Zillah, dau, 10, b. do.
Margaret, dau, 7, b. do.
(Give me a shout if you want me to trace this family back a little more ...)
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mytree
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Hi Tati
Thank you so much for the info - still a relative newbie (already addicted though) what does the do stand for please?
Yes please, i am wanting to trace as far back as possible and really want to obtain detailed info to build up a proper picture of our families and how they used to live.
Thanks
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Any census information included in this post is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukAdams, Augier, Bo(u)lton, Brown(e), Cooper, Delanougerede, Desbruslais, Drury, Fisher, Fleury, Fransz, Hale, Holdsworth, Kirk, Mandelli, Michel, Robinson, Skidmore, Thompson,Tipping, Tomlinson, Turner, Wakefield. |
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mytree
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Osmond was born at 12 Queen Street - so i can check on the 1901 census to get an approximate dob for George. Thank you again.
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Any census information included in this post is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukAdams, Augier, Bo(u)lton, Brown(e), Cooper, Delanougerede, Desbruslais, Drury, Fisher, Fleury, Fransz, Hale, Holdsworth, Kirk, Mandelli, Michel, Robinson, Skidmore, Thompson,Tipping, Tomlinson, Turner, Wakefield. |
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Tati
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Well, 1877 Barnsley if the George I found is the correct one 
Problem is I can't spot him in 1881 for now. There's a possible on the 1891 census but no Enoch 
1891
RG12/3778 62 7
Wombwell, Yorkshire
40 Station Road
George Garratt, head, wid, 44, Coal Miner, b. Lincolnshire Westwoodside
Harriet Turner, boarder, wid, 44, b. Lincolnshire Barnetby
George Turner, boarder, 14, colliery Labourer, b. Yorkshire Barnsley
William H Turner, boarder, 11, scholar, b. Barnsley
William Clarkson, boarder, mar, (can't read age), Coal Miner, b. Yorkshire Ardsley
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mytree
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Thank you so much, this is such a helpful site, only joined today and people have been marvellous.
Enoch is only a possibility not a confirmed relative - so every chance the info you have supplied may be what i am looking for.
Your input is appreciated.
Thank you
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Any census information included in this post is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukAdams, Augier, Bo(u)lton, Brown(e), Cooper, Delanougerede, Desbruslais, Drury, Fisher, Fleury, Fransz, Hale, Holdsworth, Kirk, Mandelli, Michel, Robinson, Skidmore, Thompson,Tipping, Tomlinson, Turner, Wakefield. |
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Tati
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I really can't find George in 1881 
So - here are the Tippings:
1891
RG12/3781 16 25
Worsborough Green, Yorkshire
4 Taylor Row
Rowland Tipping, head, 44, Coal Miner, b. Derbyshire Clay Cross
Jane, wife, 40, b. Worsbro Green
George, son, 18, Coal Miner, b. Barnsley
Joseph, son, 16, Coal Miner, b. do.
Catherine, dau, 14, b. do.
John W, son, 12, scholar, b. do.
Elizabeth, dau, 10, b. Worsbro Green
Lilly, dau, 8, b. do.
Zillah, dau, 1mo, b. do.
(next door there's a Samuel Ogden age 75 with wife Mary age 69 and son William age 33 - let's see if we meet them again as we go back in time )
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Tati
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1861
RG9/2525 131 27
Clay Lane, Derbyshire
(Ecclesiastical Parish Claycross)
Danesmoor? Rd
Francis Tipping, head, wid, 54 (or 34?), Labourer at Collery? Works, b. Nottinghamshire Eakering?
Rowland, son, 13, (same occupation), b. Derbyshire Claycross
Catherine, dau, 12, scholar, b. do.
Mary A, dau, 9, scholar, b. do.
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Tati
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1851
HO107/2147 260 35
Clay Lane, Derbyshire
Danes Moor
Francis Tipping, head, 45, Farming 5 acres, b. Eatering Notts
Mary, wife, 35, b. Clay Cross Derby
Joseph, son, 11, b. do.
Ann, dau, 9, b. do.
Charles, son, 6, b. do.
Roland, son, 4, b. do.
Catherine, dau, 1, b. do.
1841
HO107/196/13 6 6
Clay Lane, Derbyshire
Claycross
Francis Tipping, 30, Publican, not born in county
Elizabeth, 30, not born in county
Francis, 5, not born in county
Joseph, 1, born in county
So - was Francis widowed twice? 
Edit: Answering my own question ...
Possible Death
Eliza Tipping - June quarter 1843 - Chesterfield registration district (which covers Clay Lane) Volume 19 page 329
Marriage Francis Tipping to Mary Taylor
March quarter 1845 Chesterfield 19 413
The marriage is on the IGI: 13 Feb 1845 St Thomas, Old Brampton, Derbyshire
Death Mary Tipping
March 1853 Chesterfield
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« Last Edit: Monday 13 August 07 16:42 UTC (UK) by Tati »
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mytree
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Hi Tati
Eliza not Elizabeth, if she used this shortened version of her name would they have been allowed to register her death with that, rather than Elizabeth?
I have Francis TIPPING 1845 Mar Qtr Vol 19 P413 for marriage.
do do 1884 Jun Qtr Vol 7b P404 for death aged 76 -dob c1808
I have:Rowland TIPPING
1872 Jun Qtr Barnsley Yorkshire WR Vol 9c p206
and 1890 Sept Qtr Barnsley Yorkshire WR Vol 9c P288 for marriages.
For Death i have 1915 Dec Qtr Age 64 Barnsley Yorkshire WR Vol 9 p348 which would suggest 1851 for DOB
Only DOB i have found so far is 1847 Jun Qtr Chesterfield vol xix p 4?1 
I know that there can be age discrepancies but by 4 years?
Also Parish Registers - i looked at but not sure i understand...
the search brought up highighted 'Rowland' with several numbers after it 24, 28, 29 etc
highlighted 'Tipping, William', 453
Is this an index to pages i should look at in the Parish register?
Any futher help your happy to give would be appreciated thank you.
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Any census information included in this post is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukAdams, Augier, Bo(u)lton, Brown(e), Cooper, Delanougerede, Desbruslais, Drury, Fisher, Fleury, Fransz, Hale, Holdsworth, Kirk, Mandelli, Michel, Robinson, Skidmore, Thompson,Tipping, Tomlinson, Turner, Wakefield. |
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Tati
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1851
HO107/2333 226 47
Worsbrough, Yorkshire
Jonas Taylor Houses
Samuel Ogden, head, 33, Hand Loom Weaver, b. Lancashire Blakeley
Mary, wife, 29, b. Yorkshire Worsbro
George, son, 5, scholar, b. do.
Elizabeth, dau, 3, scholar, b. do.
Jane, dau, 11 months, b. do.
Mary, lodger, widow, 67, Receiving parochial relief, b. Lancashire Blakeley
Charles Dalton, lodger, unm, 50, Hand loom weaver, birthplace not known
1861
RG9/3452 16 31
Worsbrough, Yorkshire
Worsbro Common
Saml Ogden, head, 45, Bleacher of Linen, b. Lancs Blakely
Mary, wife, 39, b. Yorkshire W Common (as all others)
George, son, 15, Collier
Jane, dau, 10, scholar
Zilla, dau, 8, scholar
Charles, son, 6
William, son, 3
John, son, 3
Elizabeth, dau, 1
Margrett Kay, mother, mar, 70, b. lancs Blakely
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