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Topic: PRs Woburn and Leighton Buzzard, Susan(nah) FA(U)NCH (Read 169 times)
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Nickm
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Can anyone do a look up of these, for me please? Any help gratefully received!
I am looking to confirm an IGI entry at Woburn. Baptism of Susan(nah) Fa(u)nch on 12 Jul 1812. Will also give parents names and occupation, etc?
Also her (second) Marriage to William Tom(m)s 11 Oct 1844 (IGI again) in Leighton Buzzard. She may be married under the name of Coleman, from her first marriage?
She appears to have had 3 children after this (Mary 1844/5, William 1847/8, Reuben Aug 1850 (Reuben had probably died by 1861 census) and Ann 1853 (or 55?). All say born Leighton Buzzard. Children based on 1851/61.
William Toms died between 1851 - 1861?
She had previously married in Gt Brickhill (Bucks) a Robert Coleman on 11 Nov 1829, which would have made her only 17. He died before the 1841 Census and Susan had remarried (William Toms) as above. I couldn't find any of them in 1871 at the FRC?
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Coleman (Gt Brickhill, Bucks and London)
Smith (Chelsea, London)
Floyd (London)
Martin Newton Abbot and Plymouth, Devon)
Plummer (Bury St Edmonds, Suffolk and Chelsea)
Vaughan (London)
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bedfordshire boy
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Welcome to Rootschat!
I don't have Woburn transcript so can't answer your specific question re Susanna's baptism. You should be aware though that whilst all of Beds pre 1812 has been transcribed and is fairly easily checked, post 1812 is a different matter, and whilst some libraries may have the microfilms of the parish registers in their catchment area, in many cases it means a trip to Bedford to the Records Office (not open on a Saturday)
But the baptism of Susan Faunch on 12 July 1812, daughter of Richard and Mary, is extracted from the parish register, so is reliable. Similarly the marriage of Susannah Fanch to Robert Coleman on 11 Nov 1829 at Leighton Buzzard has also been extracted from the parish register (where did the Gt Brickhill, Bucks information come from?)
The 1844 marriage is a member submission so you are right to check it. It's on Freebmd in the Dec quarter 1844 in Leighton Buzzard registration district where two of the eight parties are Susan Coleman and William Toms. The marriage certificate should state that Susan was formerly Faunch and it will give her father's name.
FreeBMD has a death of a Robert Coleman in the March quarter 1840 in Newport Pagnell registration district (which includes Gt Brickhill which is where Susan and children were living in 1841
What perplexes me is that she gave her age as 30 not born in Bucks in 1841 (ie born June 1806 - May 1811); 44 born Woburn in 1851 and 56 born Leighton Buzzard in 1861, which doesn't fit well with a birth on 22 June 1812.
Regards
David
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bedfordshire boy
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FreeBMD coverage is virtually complete now, at least in the 19th century, so I find it invaluable.
The death/burial discrepancy is strange - I've checked the image and it's definitely the March quarter
It's not so much the age differences between censuses - what surprises me is that the implied birth is consistently well before 1812.
That it was Susan Coleman who married William Toms is established by the various Toms/Coleman children in the 1851 census, and the Coleman/Susan marriage also seems to be pretty sound. Very mysterious!
I would be tempted to get the Coleman death cert and the 1844 marriage cert just to confirm everything
David
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Daisypetal
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Hi,
I think this is them in 1871 transcribed as LEINS,
1871 RG10/1561 f.74 p.29 Leighton Buzzard
Lamsey
Susan TOMS Head W 64 in rect of Parochial Rlf Beds Woburn
Mary " " Daur Un 26 " " Beds Leighton Invalid
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Daisy
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johnP-bedford
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Name & Religion come just after Date of birth....
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Hello Nickm & welcome to RootsChat
The Woburn PR transcript (up to 1812) confirms the baptism entry of Susan daughter of Richard & Mary Faunch on July 12 1812, born on 22 June 1822.
Other children to Richard & Mary Faunch are
Thomas chr Aug 20 1809, born 20 March 1808
James chr Aug 12 1810, born 15 July 1810 - & buried Feb 23 1812
There is a marriage entry on Nov 13 1798 of Thomas Fanch (of Milton Bryan) to Esther Gobbey.
There is a baptism of Richard Fanch in Milton Bryan on 10 Mar 1782, son of Richard & Ann Fanch, who had a number of children between 1770 & 1787; including a Thomas on 29 Apr 1770 (subject of the above marriage entry maybe)
Regards John
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tazzie
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Hi & Welcome Nick.
Just to add to John & Davids entries I looked at the marriage cert in 1844 for William Tom & Susan.
11 Oct 1844 at the aprish church.
William Toms bach of full age father William Toms
Suasan Coleman widow of full age father Richard Faunch carpenter.
witnesses John Smith
Maria Faunch.
So that seems to confirm it then?
Tazzie
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Daisypetal
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Hi,
In case you don't have it, here she is in 1881,
1881 RG11/1641 f.36 p.6 Leighton Buzzard
America?
Sarah GILBERT Head Widow 73 Straw Plait Worker Beds Leighton
Susan TOMS Lodger " 74 " " " "
and her probable death,
Susan TOMS age:77 Sep Q 1886 Leighton Buzzard v.3b p.241
Daisy
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johnP-bedford
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Oh Daisy - you just beat me ... I had found the burial at right age in 1886
& was about to suggest - is she found in 1881 .
There was a place in Leighton Buzzard - known as Lower America - it's been discussed recently --- >
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,244391.msg1334349.html#msg1334349
Regards John
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