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SS from The Rhondda
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First Son is named for the Father's Father
Second Son is named for the Mothers Father
Third Son is named for the Father's Grandfather, Fraternal
Fourth Son is named for the Mothers Grandfather, Maternal
Fifth Son is named for the Fathers Grandfather, Maternal
Sixth Son is named for the Mothers Grandfather, Fraternal
Seventh thru tenth Sons are named for the Fathers Great Grandfathers
Tenth thru Fourteenth Sons for the Mothers Great Grandfathers
First Daughter is named for the Mothers mother
Second Daughter is named for the Fathers Mother, Maternal
Third Daughter is named for the Mothers Grandmother, Fraternal
Fourth Daughter is named for the Fathers Grandmother, Fraternal
Fifth Daughter is named for the Mothers Grandmother, Maternal
Sixth Daughter is named for the Fathers Grandmother
Seventh thru tenth Daughter are named for the Mothers, Maternal Great Grandmothers
Tenth Thru fourteenth Daughter for the Fathers Great Grandmothers
Wouldn't it be great if all our ancestors stuck to this rule ! 
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Boongie Pam
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Lilian Palmer 1923 to 1987
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There are different naming patterns. In the South of Scotland there are 2 main ones I've found.
the one that Rhonda posted or:
If the child was male
His forename would be for
1st child - the father’s father
2nd child – the mother’s father
3rd child – the father
subsq.children – the father’s brothers
the mother’s brothers
brothers-in-law
friends/uncles
If the child was female
Her forename would be for
1st child – the mother’s mother
2nd child – the father’s mother
3rd child - the mother
subsq.children – the mother’s sisters
the father’s sisters
sisters-in-law
friends/aunts
This would mean that James could be John's father and John could be Mary's father. Without knowing the years of the children's births I can't say with certainly if this likely. I only use the naming conventions if the children are born soon after marriage and a couple years apart.
Pam
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Nick Carver
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One spanner to be thrown in the works. If the grandfather's were both John and their fathers in turn were also John, which is not an impossible scenario, there is no information in the naming convention to help in any way shape or form. Sadly people didn't pay close enough attention to the names of their intended spouse's fathers and grandfathers before taking the plunge. It is sooo selfish of them.
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E Yorks - Carver, Steels, Cross, Maltby, Whiting, Moor, Laybourn
W Yorks - Wilkinson, Kershaw, Rawnsley, Shaw
Norfolk - Carver, Dowson
Cheshire - Berry, Cooper
Lincs - Berry
London/Ireland/Scotland/Lincs - Sullivan
Northumberland/Durham - Nicholson, Cuthbert, Turner, Robertson
Berks - May
Beds - Brownell
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but these may help you:
- good luck 