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Should I give up on him now?
« on: Wednesday 22 August 07 17:35 BST (UK) »

Hi Everyone,

Bit new to this and not sure if this is the right place to post this but I could really do with some advice from some of you experienced researchers!

My dilemma is I can't find my g.g.grandfather in some of the census records.  I can find him in 1901,1891,1881 but not in the 1871,1861 and 1851 census record.  His name is Charles Anderson and I have spent hours on the Ancestry site using every combination of his name that I can think of but with no success.  He wasn't even kind enough to register his marriage so no help there.

So I would be grateful for some opinions as to where to go now -  do I assume that he wasn't in the country for that period of time and wonder where he could have been or do I keep searching on Ancestry and assume he has been transcibed incorrectly and that one day I might just find him!






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Re: Should I give up on him now?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 22 August 07 17:38 BST (UK) »



Hi Anne,

Have you tried asking for help on any of the lookup boards?

If not, I'm sure if you can give us a few more details we can make a combined effort in trying to find him?

Kindest regards,

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Re: Should I give up on him now?
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 22 August 07 17:39 BST (UK) »

always too early to give up !

Give us the details that you have   Smiley
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EVERETT - 1830, Scoles, Norfolk & Epping, SX
OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington
LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs
DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs
BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs
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Re: Should I give up on him now?
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 22 August 07 17:41 BST (UK) »

Give us a clue as to county ?
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Re: Should I give up on him now?
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 22 August 07 17:47 BST (UK) »

Love the penguins Pels!

He is Charles Anderson born  Stafford, Staffordshire.  In 1901 he is a labourer in Willesden Middlesex, 1891 and 1881 a railway signalman in Leighton Buzzard.  His wife Sarah Ann Barker is in service in Hampstead in 1871 census and their first child Charles was born in Windsor 1873.

There is a Charles Sandy Anderson christened in Stafford 19th March 1847 parents Thomas and Sarah, Thomas - shoemaker, I am assuming this must be him but have no confirmation.
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Re: Should I give up on him now?
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 22 August 07 17:56 BST (UK) »

It's quite common for people to vanish and reappear. Several of my lot do that. There are a few explanations:

a - they managed to avoid the Census (no hope of finding them)
b - the Census man misheard their names (keep trying)
c - Ancestry mistranscribed the names (keep trying)
d - the were abducted by aliens (sell story to News of the World)

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Re: Should I give up on him now?
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 22 August 07 17:58 BST (UK) »

... or hiding under a stepfather's name ... (Not so likely for a 28 year old however  Tongue)
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Re: Should I give up on him now?
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 22 August 07 17:59 BST (UK) »

I see his birth registration transcribed in Ancestry as Charles Tondy Anderson 1846 Q4

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Re: Should I give up on him now?
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 22 August 07 17:59 BST (UK) »



I was hoping for some reason he would pop up on Findmypast.com!

I have some credits I would dearly like to get rid of before they expire - but nothing there I'm afraid, so it's back to Ancestry .. ..
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Re: Should I give up on him now?
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 22 August 07 18:05 BST (UK) »

for information / quick referral

1881 census is:~ RG11 1642 32 14

Soulbury Road, Linsdale, Leighton Buzzard
Charles Anderson age 33 b. Staffordshire  Head Married Railway Signalman
Sarah do. 30 b. Helthorn Essex wife  marr,
Charles do. 8 son, b. windsor  scholar
Isabella do. 7 dau b. shepherds bush, do.
Ada do. 5 dau  b. paddington do.
Florence do. 2 dau. b. Linsdale
Ethel do. dau b. do.
James Smith age 30 b. Brandon Suffolk, boarder Groom (N D)

from the births of their children looks like they moved around alot.




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Re: Should I give up on him now?
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 22 August 07 18:14 BST (UK) »

Thanks everyone -

Toni - thats the one - childrens births read like railway timetable - windsor, shepherds bush, paddington!

Shame he's not on Findmypast, not a transciption error then.

Forthefamily - the photocopy I have of Stafford Baptisms it looks like Sandy and is 1847!!
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Re: Should I give up on him now?
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 22 August 07 18:17 BST (UK) »

perhaps we should try to find him by ruling all the other Charles Andersons in the 1871 census out, (quite a lengthy task)

according to 1901censusonline there are 33 Charles Andersons on the 1871 census b.1848 +/-2yrs

the trouble is we don't know his wifes maiden name and it looks as if they married circa 1871 also. The children were born in London so maybe he is a lodger there. maybe he is still with the parents in 1871, Thomas & Sarah. that would help immensley!)

i saw a marriage in Islington in Q2 1871 but that was a Charles David Anderson, and also a marriage in Croydon in Q3 1873 - would this be after the birth of the first child?
there were 14 Charles Anderson marriages 1871 - 1873 all qtrs, in additon to this there were 9 Charles (Middle Name) Andersons,  if only we knew where he was in 1871.  

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Re: Should I give up on him now?
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 22 August 07 18:18 BST (UK) »

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His wife Sarah Ann Barker is in service in Hampstead in 1871 census
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EVERETT - 1830, Scoles, Norfolk & Epping, SX
OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington
LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs
DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs
BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs
CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk
LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk
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Re: Should I give up on him now?
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 22 August 07 18:20 BST (UK) »

meles - sorry forgot you - that looks like good advice hope its not the first or the last!

Tati - I did consider that but still can't find any info to support that e.g. death of father, marriage of mother

toni - wifes maiden name was Barker - have this from their son Harold's birth certificate.  Sarah Ann seems to have been baptised Elizabeth Sarah Ann.

Thanks all
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Re: Should I give up on him now?
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 22 August 07 18:23 BST (UK) »

oops did't read that bit!
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