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Topic: 1851/61 look up please. (Read 265 times)
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rainbowuk
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Hi,
Could this be them in 1861?
John Williams...head...age 54...farm labourer....brn Salop, Cound
Elizabeth Williams...wife...age 50...labourers wife
Thomas Williams...son...age 26..farm labourer
Emma Williams..daur...age 16
Thomas Williams..grand son..age 3
All born Salop and living at Upper Cound, Cound, Shropshire
RG9, Piece 1861, folio 29, page 6
Susan
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Flucker, Rutherford, Linton all Newhaven, Leith Scotland
Dixon...North Sheilds and Barrow in Furness
Green...Durham and Barrow in Furness
Duffy...Edinburgh
Mangan...Edinburgh and County Cavan , Ireland
Galligan..Edinburgh and County Cavan, Ireland
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rainbowuk
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This is the above family in 1851...I know the ages are a bit out but thought the other family names might mean something to you
John Williams....head...age 45...ag lab...brn Salop, Cound
Elizabeth Williams..wife..age 40...wife
John Williams...son...age 13...plough boy
Eliza Williams..daur..age 11..scholar
William Williams..son..age 8..scholar
Emma Williams..daur..age 6
Hannah Williams..daur...age 4
All born Salop, Cound, living at Cound, Shropshire
Piece 1990, folio 33, page 29
Susan
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Flucker, Rutherford, Linton all Newhaven, Leith Scotland
Dixon...North Sheilds and Barrow in Furness
Green...Durham and Barrow in Furness
Duffy...Edinburgh
Mangan...Edinburgh and County Cavan , Ireland
Galligan..Edinburgh and County Cavan, Ireland
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pettsy
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Hi Susan,
It could be them, but I know of no other children.
I was hoping their daughter Ann would be with them.
She was married by 1860, and had a daughter by 1863.
Thank you.
Pettsy
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Petts in Hertfordshire,Chelsea & New Zealand.
Swift in Islington, Chelsea & Battersea.
Cox in Chelsea.
Carter in Chelsea.
Little in Westminster, London.
Munn & McAulay in Duntocher, Scotland.
Munn New Jersey and Oz
Dwyer, McManus & Kiernan in Ireland.
Turner in Shrewsbury.
Cannon in London.
Porter in London.
Kinner in Chelsea, London.
Le Breton
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ricky1
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Hi Pettsy
Where are John and Elizabeth staying in the 1871 census 
ricky
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Harby,Garton,Drury,Duncombe,Booth,Catton,Barker, Kirkby, Wilson. Lincolnshire, Also Murkin's, Jeffery,Pettitt,Carter, from Suffolk/Cambridgeshire boarder Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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ricky1
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Hi Pettsy
are you sure your following the right family
1871 say
John Kilham mar 67 ag lab Salop Middle
Elizabeth " mar 65 " Minstrey?
Ann William Rogers boarder u/m 6 scholar Salop Shewsbury
1861
John Kilham head mar 56 ag lab Salop Middle
Elizabeth " wife mar 54 " Westbury?
Eliza " dau u/m 18 serv " Middle
Harriet E " dau u/m 12 scholar " "
Sarah H " dau u/m 8 " " St Marys
living at Preston Gubbals
1851
John Killam head mar 47 ag lab Salop Middle
Elizabeth " wife mar 45 " Minsterley?
William " son u/m 9 scholar " Middle
Eliza " dau u/m 7 " " "
Enoch " son u/m 4 " "
Harriet " dau u/m 2 " "
living at Leaton, Shrewsbury, Salop
h0107/ 1922
folio 392
page 11
ricky
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Harby,Garton,Drury,Duncombe,Booth,Catton,Barker, Kirkby, Wilson. Lincolnshire, Also Murkin's, Jeffery,Pettitt,Carter, from Suffolk/Cambridgeshire boarder Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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pettsy
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Ah Thank you Ricky,
I have not seen the actual census myself.
Someone found Ann Williams Rogers for me, with Mr & Mrs William's
If you look at my post, "1861 look up please"You'll see the message there.
It was the Ann Williams Rogers I was interested in, I though the Williams were her grandparents.
Now they seem not to be Williams, I don't know what to think
Thank you.
Pettsy
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Petts in Hertfordshire,Chelsea & New Zealand.
Swift in Islington, Chelsea & Battersea.
Cox in Chelsea.
Carter in Chelsea.
Little in Westminster, London.
Munn & McAulay in Duntocher, Scotland.
Munn New Jersey and Oz
Dwyer, McManus & Kiernan in Ireland.
Turner in Shrewsbury.
Cannon in London.
Porter in London.
Kinner in Chelsea, London.
Le Breton
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ricky1
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hi Pettsy
They are definitely not Williams, they might get it wrong on one census being transcribed but not on three of them. you can ask someone to double check if you like its no prob, better to be safe than sorry. But it is to much of a coincidence to have the same family in 1871/61/51 census down as Kilham or Killam.
ricky
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pettsy
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Hi Ricky,
No I trust your judgement, it is so close to Williams (Killam, I understand how it was read wrong.
I have done it myself in the past. 
I will wait until I have the marr cert for Ann Williams, and see who her father is, then take it from there...
I will take a look at the census next week at the FRC.
Thanks for all your help and advice.
Pettsy
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Petts in Hertfordshire,Chelsea & New Zealand.
Swift in Islington, Chelsea & Battersea.
Cox in Chelsea.
Carter in Chelsea.
Little in Westminster, London.
Munn & McAulay in Duntocher, Scotland.
Munn New Jersey and Oz
Dwyer, McManus & Kiernan in Ireland.
Turner in Shrewsbury.
Cannon in London.
Porter in London.
Kinner in Chelsea, London.
Le Breton
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