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Topic: Census look up 1841 to 1881 please (Read 511 times)
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KA
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I am interested in who was resident at Old Warden Park/The Mansion (later Shuttleworth) Old Warden, Beds. There may be a family called Ongley, but I am still interested if there is not. Particular year of interest is 1861, but who was resident any other census is still pertinent to my research.
Kind regards
KA
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rainbowuk
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Hi,
Not sure if this is right place, but this is a George Ongley in 1861
George Ongley...head...age 51(unmarried)..occ honourable George Ongley Gent..brn Oxford St, London
He had 3 servants living with him...if you need their details, let me know.
He was living at Mount Pleasant, Old Warden, Biggleswade, Beds
RG 9 , Piece 998, folio 122, page 17
Susan
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Flucker, Rutherford, Linton all Newhaven, Leith Scotland
Dixon...North Sheilds and Barrow in Furness
Green...Durham and Barrow in Furness
Duffy...Edinburgh
Mangan...Edinburgh and County Cavan , Ireland
Galligan..Edinburgh and County Cavan, Ireland
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rainbowuk
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hi,
This is the 1851
Honble George Ongley....head..age 41..farmer of 215 acres employing 10 labourers...brn Middlesex
Again there was 3 servants.
He was living at Mount Pleasant, Warden, Beds
Piece 1753, folio 636, page 1
Susan
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Flucker, Rutherford, Linton all Newhaven, Leith Scotland
Dixon...North Sheilds and Barrow in Furness
Green...Durham and Barrow in Furness
Duffy...Edinburgh
Mangan...Edinburgh and County Cavan , Ireland
Galligan..Edinburgh and County Cavan, Ireland
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KA
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Very interesting. The Ongley I'm after is Robert Ongley, but from the age of George, possibly a sibling. Mount Pleasant sound large enough that it could have become The Mansion and perhaps changed it's name at a later date.
Can Mount Pleasant be found in any other census? Then I can cross reference with the 1881. See if they both come up or just the one.
Many thanks.
KA
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rainbowuk
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This looks like a possible for 1841
Lou or Lord? Ongley...age 35..not born in county
Hon George Ongley..age 31..not born in county
Hon frederick Ongley..age 30..brn Bedfordshire
Lady Ongley...age 68...brn Ireland
Hon? Francis Ongley (F)..age 27...not born in county
There were also a host of servants
Living at Park, Warden, Beds
Piece 9, Folio 19/3, page 1
Susan
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Flucker, Rutherford, Linton all Newhaven, Leith Scotland
Dixon...North Sheilds and Barrow in Furness
Green...Durham and Barrow in Furness
Duffy...Edinburgh
Mangan...Edinburgh and County Cavan , Ireland
Galligan..Edinburgh and County Cavan, Ireland
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bedfordshire boy
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The Complete Peerage vol 10 p 66 says of the Ongley peerage:
1814-77 Robert Henley-Ongley, Baron Ongley of Old Warden (an Irish peerage) son and heir of Robert Henley-Ongley (died 20 Aug 1814) was b 9 May and bap 14 July 1803 at Old Warden; educated at Oxford (Christ Church) matric 9 May 1822; he d unmarr on 21 Jan 1877, in his 74th year, at Bushey Lodge, Teddington, Middx, when his barony became extinct.
VCH states that Robert, last Lord Ongley, sold Old Warden Park before his death to Joseph Shuttleworth, but doesn't give an exact date - however on
http://www.sandy-bedfordshire.co.uk/local_attractions_in_sandy_bedfordshire_uk.htm
it says that the estate was sold in 1872 due to Robert's severe financial difficulties
Plenty of online descriptions of the property, which became known as Shuttleworth House (or Mansion) after the purchase by Shuttleworth, and now houses Shuttleworth College. (I played cricket there once many years ago, and was bowled first ball!)
I think Mount Pleasant was an area of Old Warden rather than the name of the mansion - I have seen other census entries where someone has given their birthplace alternately as Old Warden and Mount PLeasant (which up until then I'd never heard of)
David
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KA
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Firstly a big thank you to everybody who has helped on this. I really do appreciate the help.
Meliora, yes please to the 1871 entry for George Ongley.
Best Wishes and Kind Regards
KA
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KA
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Thanks John,
Dear All,
I've just been on some on-line directory sites and from what I can make out, brother George may have been running a farm at Mount Pleasant, or in an area known at Mount Pleasant (thank you all you rootchatters for your info on this). But Robert Ongley had a 'seat' at a residence sometimes known as Walden House or Old Warden Park. Although I don't think he was there much so his name won't help in the search. Presumably servants may have been left there. Can such a house be found in any census? It seems that it only features in the 41 census as 'Park'. I know it existed, but it seems to have escaped all census.
Regards
KA
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