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1841 Census Manchester Please Completed Thankyou
« on: Saturday 25 August 07 04:49 BST (UK) »

I would appreciate help in seeing if Frances Jones, born c 1827, not in County is on the 1841 Census of Manchester please.
Her father was Griffith Jones and from her marriage record it states he was a farmer, he also was not born in the County possibly one of the border counties of Wales-Shropshire.
Frances married in Manchester in 1847. She was living then at 20 Bridge Street, but unfortunately it does not state if this street is in  Manchester or its environs.
Any help would be appreciated please.
Thank you,
Pat
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Re: 1841 Census Manchester Please
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 25 August 07 10:01 BST (UK) »

Hi Pat,

Who did Frances marry?  Do you have her on 1851 census as this would give her birthplace, which would possibly help find her in 1841 - if she was on her own there are too many of that name without more details, no Frances found living with father Griffith in the Manchester area,

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Barbara
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Re: 1841 Census Manchester Please
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 25 August 07 23:19 BST (UK) »

Dear Barbara

I have searched and searched both the 1851 and the 1861, nothing!
The 1841 was my my last hope, so thank you very much you for looking for me.
I think that she may have died shortly after the birth of her daughter, Ellen, in c1847. Frances married John Roberts.
I do not have Ellen's b.c. because there were for the time too many of them. I will try at some later time to get this if I can eliminate some of them!
Perhaps I am focusing too much on the Manchester area, it is just that Ellen said she was born in Manchester in the 1871 census and unfortunately she died before the 1881.
I did think that probably there were too many Jones' and my big hope was that there would not be too many Griffith Jones born c 1800 around that time in Manchester and obviously from your searches there were none!
Thank you anyway for looking for me that was very kind of you, some of my mysterious ancestors seem to always, either from misfortune or not, dodge the enumerator.
Kind regards and many thanks again.
Pat
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Re: 1841 Census Manchester Please
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 25 August 07 23:31 BST (UK) »

I don't give up that easily! Will have another look  Smiley
(although away for 2 wks from tomorrow so if I don't find anything tonight hopefully some other rootschatter will)

I can see 1 birth for Ellen 1846 and 2 in 1847, perhaps if you were to email Manchester register office and ask them to check parents' details they would do that before you bought the cert.
http://www.manchester.gov.uk/registrars
Superintendent registrar
Register Office
Heron House
47 Lloyd Street, Manchester M2 5LE
Tel 0161 234  5535
email registeroffice(at)manchester.gov.uk   [you need to put @ for (a)]

Barbara
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Re: 1841 Census Manchester Please
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 25 August 07 23:58 BST (UK) »

Dear Barbara

Thank you so much I honestly did not know that the District Offices would be that accommodating I know the GRO would not, you pays your money and you get what you asked for!. One learns all the time.
Hope you enjoy your time away, and please do not worry I have had my Gt Gt Grandma on hold in the too hard basket  for years!
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Pat
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Re: 1841 Census Manchester Please Completed Thankyou
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 03 April 08 14:13 BST (UK) »

Why not try a search of the 1841 census on the 1901 uk census site.

A search for Francis Jones with a one year margin and no place entered produces only 53 results.
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Re: 1841 Census Manchester Please Completed Thankyou
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 03 April 08 23:38 BST (UK) »

Thank you Barbara, do you know I have never noticed that you could do that via 1901 census.
Such a boon when a family name has been mistranscribed by other sites.
Have you ever heard about going up or down the wrong tree!, sometimes using the Family Search can really put you on a wrong branch, but in my case that is not due to any mistake on their part but more my inability to think laterally! Now got the right father and mother for my Ellen, without a doubt, so thank you for your work and my apologies too, but I did learn a lot about other parts of England and Wales in my searches.
Kindest regards and best wishes and many thanks again for all your help,
Pat
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