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Re: WILDMAN/TYLER
« Reply #60 on: Saturday 02 August 08 17:38 BST (UK) »

well that would be why i could not find him in the normal parish records but had found temperance thanks now i mite be able to get copy's now i no were to look it's just up to now they all been bap in normal church thank sam Smiley
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Re: WILDMAN/TYLER
« Reply #61 on: Sunday 14 September 08 19:19 BST (UK) »

Hello, haveing looked at your conversation, I believe we may have something in common. My Family line seems to conect, with your line. Samuel Wildman was my Great Gandfather, his Farther and Mother  Thomas and Temperance, and Thomas's Farthr James all seem to be mentioned.
If we are related that would be great and I would very much like to chat.
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Re: WILDMAN/TYLER
« Reply #62 on: Thursday 18 September 08 11:13 BST (UK) »

Hi There, just found this thread. I think I may have some links with the Riseley/Ravensden Wildman's.
My Grandfather Horace Wildman was born in Radwell in 1899 to I believe a Thomas Wildman who was an agricultural labourer from Riseley or Bolnhurst.
My Uncle was researchin the family but sadly passed away before he was able to get back much further.
Any assistance would be appreciated.

Many thanks,
Mark
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Re: WILDMAN/TYLER
« Reply #63 on: Thursday 18 September 08 11:35 BST (UK) »

Hi Mark

Welcome to Rootschat

1901 census
2 Church Lane, East Haddon, Northants
Thomas Wildman head marr 33 Carter on Farm b Bolnhurst
Martha Wildman wife 30 b Bolnhurst
Isabel dau 6; Jesse son 4; both b Bolnhurst
Horace 2 b Radwell
Frank 1 b Milton Beds

I'll go back a bit and see what else I can find

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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
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Re: WILDMAN/TYLER
« Reply #64 on: Thursday 18 September 08 13:01 BST (UK) »

Thomas is a bit of a mystery, as he never appears on a census with his parents, always his grandfather:

1871
24 High St, Bolnhurst
Thomas Wildman head marr 56 ag lab b Ravensden
Ann Wildman wife 53 b Bolnhurst
Charles Wildman son unmarr 23 ag lab b Bolnhurst
Benjamin Wildman son unmarr 21 ag lab b Bolnhurst
John Wildman son unmarr 18 ag lab b Bolnhurst
Thomas Wildman grandson 3 b Bolnhurst

1881 see transcript on www.familysearch.org

1891
High St, Bolnhurst
Thomas Wildman head widower 77 ag lab b Ravensden
Thomas Wildman grandson 23 ag lab b Bolnhurst

There's a birth on http://freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl of a Thomas Wildman in Bedford registration district in Sept quarter 1867. If you order the certificate from the GRO this will give you his parents, as his baptism doesn't show on the IGI

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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
             Graveley: Ford/Revell
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Re: WILDMAN/TYLER
« Reply #65 on: Thursday 18 September 08 13:10 BST (UK) »

David your a star many thanks. Always knew we were a local North Beds family and strange how thing pan out as my father was born in London, however I was born and grew up in Radwell.
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« Reply #66 on: Thursday 18 September 08 13:24 BST (UK) »

Hello Mark;   & welcome to RootsChat

From FreeBMD a Thomas Wildman married a Caroline Martha Jones in Apr-June 1892 Bedford RD vol 36 page 629.

On 1891 census she's a Caroline M Jones is servant in Luton to a Cotton & Ribbon merchant, she's aged 20 & born Bolnhurst.  Noticed next door in Luton is a Kate H Jones age 25 born Bolnhurst similarly a servant.

I know David has identified his wife on 1901 to be just Martha, but could it be the same pair. If it is then get the marriage certificate which may name his father.  

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Bishop - Bedford; Hunts, Hemingford Grey
Allen - Hunts, Hemingford Abbotts
Clement - Croydon
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Re: WILDMAN/TYLER
« Reply #67 on: Thursday 18 September 08 13:32 BST (UK) »

Grandfather Thomas Wildman was baptised at Ravensden on 22 Jan 1815, son of William & Sarah (per BVRI)

William Wildman married Sarah Houghton at Ravensden on 13 Sept 1808 (BVRI)

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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
             Graveley: Ford/Revell
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Re: WILDMAN/TYLER
« Reply #68 on: Thursday 18 September 08 23:46 BST (UK) »

Pretty sure that Caroline Martha & Kate H Jones are sisters.

1881 census has Kate age 16 as servant in Luton, while Martha Jones age 9 is at home with parents Jesse & Hannah, plus another 6 children. 

1871 census  Kate age 5 is at home with parents George Jesse Jones & Hannah, plus other children.
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Allen - Hunts, Hemingford Abbotts
Clement - Croydon
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Re: WILDMAN/TYLER
« Reply #69 on: Friday 19 September 08 07:49 BST (UK) »

Hi there everyone
Mark,  do you think your William, father to Grandfather Thomas could be a brother to my James Wildman b 1790 Riseley who married Catherine Bell
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Re: WILDMAN/TYLER
« Reply #70 on: Friday 19 September 08 10:11 BST (UK) »

Hi Shirley, from the little I've managed to glean then that's the way my thought train is going.
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Re: WILDMAN/TYLER
« Reply #71 on: Friday 19 September 08 12:10 BST (UK) »

Mark I can't help as I don't even live in the Uk and research that far back is impossible online, but John & David could probably find a link if there is one.

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Re: WILDMAN/TYLER
« Reply #72 on: Friday 19 September 08 12:58 BST (UK) »

Shirle;  If David finds a link then that's your theory blown - he lives in France

Do you have any idea where James was born ? about 1791 -
he wasn't baptised in Riseley 

I will look at Ravensden PR at the library tomorrow morning

regards John - Bedford - in the UK
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Re: WILDMAN/TYLER
« Reply #73 on: Friday 19 September 08 14:27 BST (UK) »

Sorry John, I do remember David living in France. I wasn't thinking when put post to Mark.  Its very late over here & brain is frazzled.   Smiley   We had established somewhere that James wasn't baptised in Riseley perhaps Ravensden or Radwell.  The only way to link would be to find both baptisms of James and William is that right? 
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Re: WILDMAN/TYLER
« Reply #74 on: Friday 19 September 08 15:19 BST (UK) »

What's wrong with checking the IGI on www.familysearch.org, which is available online in England, France and Australia?

There's a William Wildman baptised in Ravensden on 12 June 1791, son  of George and Ann, which might be him, but he seems on the young side to have married in 1808.
There was also an Ann Skinner Wildman, dau of the same couple, baptised in 1792, which may be a clue as to Ann, but I can't find a marriage for George and Ann.

However there are burials of
George 25 Jan 1793
Ann 2 Feb 1793
Anne Skinner 21 Feb 1793
William 23 Nov 1797
which may have been the entire family, but it would take the parish register transcript to confirm it. The transcript is available for purchase from either Beds FHS or BLARS. I think this William might be a red herring.

There's also a William Wildman age 62 buried at Ravensden on 8 Jun 1830, but I can't see a burial of Sarah, nor can I see her in a census. He appears to have been baptised in Ravensden on 29 May 1768, son of Edward & Mary. I wonder though if the 13 Sept 1808 marriage to Sarah Houghton may have been a second marriage for William, as there's a marriage in Ravensden on 25 May 1800 William Wildman/Ann Ravens and a burial of Ann Wildman on 27 May 1808. William and Ann baptised a number of children 15 Jun 1802-1 May 1808 in Ravensden. This would make William rather older than envisaged, and I suspect he was the William baptised 1768.


There were numerous Wildmen in Ravensden, so there's no reason that there should be a link with Riseley. Because he wasn't baptised in Riseley, despite being born there, doesn't mean he has to have been baptised elsewhere. He might not have been baptised at all. My understanding of the Riseley James Wildman was that he was possibly of non-conformist stock, which is why a baptism may not be found

In the 1803 Muster Roll there's only one mention of a Wildman in Ravensden - Edward who owned 1 cart, 2 horses and 1 driver.  But there's a William Whiteman, tradesman, class 4 (unmarried men 50-55; married men over 30, married men 17-30 with more than 2 children under 10) which may be an error for Wildman. If it was really William Wildman he would have fitted in class 4 - married man over 30.

Virtually all of Beds baptisms and marriages pre 1812 have been extracted onto the IGI, so it is patently not the case that "research that far back is impossible online". Most of the above was done online. Of course information from the IGI should ideally be checked against the parish register, microfilm copies of which can be viewed at your nearest LDS Family History Centre, as the register will often include additional information

David

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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
             Graveley: Ford/Revell
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