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1841 Census Arthur HUBBARD-Completed
« on: Wednesday 29 August 07 15:33 BST (UK) »

I am looking for Arthur Hubbard bn c1812 Lincolnshire and his wife Nancy bn c1812 Shaugh Prior Devon in 1841,  they married in Devon in 1841 before the census I have them on following census.
In 1851 they are in Devon.

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Re: 1841 Census Arthur HUBBARD
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 30 August 07 15:30 BST (UK) »

Hi Rosie

you said they married in Devon before the 1841 census.... I have found this on IGI (extracted info)

Arthur HUBBARD to Nancy DAMERELL
14 april 1841
St Giles Cripplegate, London

I cannot find them in Devon in the 1841 , maybe we should look in the London area !

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Re: 1841 Census Arthur HUBBARD
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 30 August 07 15:51 BST (UK) »

Thanks Deb

I am looking for this for a friend and was going on what she told me so will have to recheck with her.
If this is the marriage (she didn't give me Nancy's maiden name) then I think I will have to search it anywhere. I was going on the fact that Nancy was born in Shaugh Prior and she and Arthur were in Devon in 1851.

Many thanks anyway, I'll complete this search and try again after I have spoken to her midweek.

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Re: 1841 Census Arthur HUBBARD
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 30 August 07 15:52 BST (UK) »

Rosie

It all looks rather interesting in 1851 where Arthur is the 'Govenor of the chamber" for the Earl and Countess of Wickham? ....

I will try to find them in 1841 ..maybe Arthur was working for him still . The Earl was born in Dublin , maybe they were all in Ireland ?

Also, the Earl and Countess' children  were one b c 1825 in Paris and the other 2 in 1832 and 1835 in London. Arthur and nancy were married 1841 in London .... maybe that's were they are ....

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Re: 1841 Census Arthur HUBBARD
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 30 August 07 16:03 BST (UK) »

Deb

Seems I completed too quickly - Yes I understood they were working for someone from Ireland.  Perhaps that is where they were.  I tried to find them some time ago when the LDS family history centre's had full Ancestry access so was hoping some fresh eyes would help as I can no longer search it myself.

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Re: 1841 Census Arthur HUBBARD
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 30 August 07 16:08 BST (UK) »

Rosie

I am still trying to find them in 1841...by 1861 Arthur , who is still married to Nancy, is a Victualler and no longer working for the Earl and Countess.....

I will keep looking .... do you need all the census for you friend?

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Re: 1841 Census Arthur HUBBARD
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 30 August 07 16:12 BST (UK) »

Deb

Many thanks. I only need the 1841 census as she has got the rest.

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Re: 1841 Census Arthur HUBBARD
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 30 August 07 17:17 BST (UK) »

Hi Rosie

I have eventually found the Countess of Wicklow? with all her children and servants living in St Marylebone, Middlesex in the 1841 ...unfortunatley arthur and Nancy Hubbard are NOT with them ...  Undecided

will look some more

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Re: 1841 Census Arthur HUBBARD
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 30 August 07 18:05 BST (UK) »

Hi Deb

Well done finding the Countess, was the Earl with her?  Shame that Arthur and Nancy were nowhere to be seen.

Fraid I've got to go out now, I'll be back in the morning.

Till then  - many thanks
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Re: 1841 Census Arthur HUBBARD
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 30 August 07 18:32 BST (UK) »

Rosie

The Earl was not in his chambers that day  Grin.......

Cannot find him  in 1841...Am not sure how to look up an Earl  Undecided His name was Thomas Forward Howard, Earl of Wicklow? , born 1788 in Dublin, Ireland. His wife was Cecil Francis, Countess of Wicklow, born in London.

I am sure if we find the Earl we will find the 'Govenor of his Chambers' ...Mr. Arthur Hubbard (who has been transcribed in 1851 as Hubbar ) Roll Eyes

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Re: 1841 Census Arthur HUBBARD
« Reply #10 on: Friday 31 August 07 12:22 BST (UK) »

Hi Deb

I have been G**gling Earl of Wicklow hoping there would be some mention of him c1841 but no luck. It would appear his first name is actually William as was his fathers so probably called Thomas to stop confusion. I am sorry but I have no suggestions as to how to find an Earl particularly on the 1841. He could have been anywhere. I think I will check with my friend whether she has Arthur and Nancys marriage cert, it should give his occupation.  I will see what more I can find out when I see her on Wednesday.

Thanks for all the information so far, I will let you know what I find out.

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Re: 1841 Census Arthur HUBBARD
« Reply #11 on: Friday 31 August 07 13:19 BST (UK) »

Hi rosie

I don't know what other info your friend has but I thought I would add this just in case ...

IGI extracted record:
Christening
Arthur HUBBARD
12 April 1812
Uffington , Lincoln
parents: William HUBBARD and Alice

Marriage:
William HUBBARD to Alice WOODWARD
18 Mar 1799
Uffington, Lincoln

Also IGI extracted;
siblings of Arthur Hubbard
all christened Uffington, parents William and Alice Hubbard

Elizabeth 13 Oct 1799
Susanna 1 Nov 1801
Henry 21 Aug 1803
John 14 Oct 1806
Thomas 29 oct 1809
Frances (female) 18 feb 1816

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Re: 1841 Census Arthur HUBBARD
« Reply #12 on: Friday 31 August 07 13:37 BST (UK) »

Hi Deb

I will pass on the extra information to my friend, many thanks - I don't know what else she has either.

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Re: 1841 Census Arthur HUBBARD
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 09 September 07 12:07 BST (UK) »

Deb

Have spoken again to my friend, the marriage gives Arthur as a Servant living Stanmore Middlesex giving no other information.  We are not convinced that he is actually working for the Earl at this time though could have been working for his wifes family the Hamilton's who at some point lived in this area so she is now looking at this possibility.

Thanks for all your help with this

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Re: 1841 Census Arthur HUBBARD
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 09 September 07 16:18 BST (UK) »

Rosie ....

I think I have found them in 1841  Grin
Transcribed under HULBERT, original looks like HULBERD

1841:
St Marylebone,Middlesex
All Souls and Trinity
Georges street

ARthur HULBERD 26 M S
Nancy Hulberd 22
both born in county

what do you think?

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