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Topic: RIPLEY ... Believe it or not. Please help (Read 1006 times)
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archer2
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Henry William RIPLEY was born at No. 9, York Terrace, Regent’s Park in London on 28 April 1827. He was a tea broker and Director of the General Assurance Company. He lived for most of his adult life at No. 1, King’s Road, Clapham Park in Surrey. He died there on 3 August 1905.
He was married on 3 June 1856 to Julia Henrietta WILLIAMS. They had issue ten children, including:
Edgar Hue RIPLEY, born in Clapham in 1864.
Edgar died, aged 29 years, in Liverpool, “the day after his arrival from South America”, on 23 February 1894.
Now things get murky.
It seems young Edgar was married to Bella Maud DAVIES - BUT I CANT PROVE IT WITH CERTAINTY AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE OR WHEN.
Bella was born in Birmingham in 1868. After Edgar's death she married [2] William Sydney Bartlett. When the national census was taken at the end of March 1901, she was living at No. 65, Cecile Road, Hornsey in Middlesex with her second husband, three children and a domestic servant.
It seems - but proof is maddeningly incomplete - that Edgar Ripley and Bella Davies had a son, Edgar William Frederick RIPLEY, who was born in Chile, South America in 1894 (possibly posthumously.)
Can anyone help, please ?
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aghadowey
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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If Edgar and Bella were the parents of Edgar (born 1894 Chile?)... Edgar, Sr. was dead (1894) and Bella living with 2nd husband and 3 children in 1901 census... where was young Edgar (born 1894 Chile?)?
Could Edgar and Bella have married in Chile? Have you checked passengers leaving U.K. on www.findmypast.com? Where was Bella born? Could the marriage have taken place there?
Before posting this I had a look at findmypast and found 3 entries which look to be young Edgar:
-Edgar Ripley age 30 in 1921 Southampton to Pernambuco, Brazil
-William Ripley age 31 in 1922 Southampton to Santos, Brazil
-EWF Ripley 1929 Southampton to Rio De Janeiro, Brazil
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aghadowey
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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1901 census- Edgar W.F. Ripley age 6 born Chili SA (British subject) also in Horsey, Middlesex. Listed as son?
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lizdb
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Hopefully, if young Edgar W F was a british subject, his birth will appear in the overseas birth index, ansd youcan send for his birth cert. ALso might be able to find parents marriage.
Think they are online at findmypast.
If not index books can be viewed in person at FRC Islington
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archer2
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p.s. I have been to the findmypast website and cannot find him in the GRO CONSULAR BIRTH INDICES (1849 to 1965).
But he was definitely born in Chile.
Strangely enough his mother returned to Chile some years later and died there during the First World War. There was obviously an ongoing family relationship with the country.
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archer2
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I will follow it up and report back.
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archer2
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The Investor Relations officer at Ripley told me that the company was founded by the Calderon family in 1956, and referred me to their website.
I was able to find out that Ripley is a large group of department stores in Chile belonging to the Calderon family. The company was founded in 1956 as a men's clothing store, under the name Royal. In 1964, the first Ripley store was inaugurated, with a wider assortment of homeproducts.
The most likely place to find the answer to my query seems to be the will of Henry William RIPLEY who died at No. 1, King’s Road, Clapham Park in Surrey on 3 August 1905.
Any takers ?   
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archer2
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Thanks for the tip - appreciated ...
But if the website is to be believed I'm still stuck :
Registry officials will make a search on your behalf. There is a charge for this but if a grant is traced, the search fee includes the provision of a copy of the grant and [if any], the Will. You must write to the Postal Searches and Copies Department at York (The Postal Searches & Copies Dept, York Probate Sub-Registry, 1st Floor, Castle Chambers, Clifford Street, York, YO1 9RG) giving the full name, address and date of death of the deceased, stating what you require and enclosing the appropriate fee.
That doesn't work well from South Africa!!
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archer2
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Just to bring the story up to date ...
Edgar Hue RIPLEY was born in Clapham in 1864. He was employed as a cable operator in Chorrillos in Chile when his son was christened in 1891. He died, aged 29 years, in Liverpool, “the day after his arrival from South America”, on 23 February 1894. He was married [where/when?] to Bella Maud DAVIES (she was born in Birmingham in Warwickshire in 1868. She was married [2] in Chile on 9 June 1895 to William Sydney Bartlett. When the national census of England was taken at the end of March 1901, she was living at No. 65, Cecile Road, Hornsey in Middlesex with her second husband, three children and a domestic servant.)
Edgar Hue and Bella had a son:
Edgar William Frederick RIPLEY, born in Chile, South America on 14 April 1890 and christened on 29 July 1891 ... see Revista del Instituto peruano de investigaciones genealógicas.
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In 1927 Edgar W F RIPLEY applied for his British and Victory war medals. His rank is show as Lieut. with Corps shown as D L Infty and ACC. No Regimental Number is shown. His address in 1927 is shown as 96, Leeside Crescent, Golders Green.
Hope this is of some help
Robert
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ripleys
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Hello there. My name is Susan Ripley - father was Ian Donald Ripley who's father was Edgar William Frederick Ripley who according to our history was born in Lima Peru, on 14th April 1890 and was raised in Santiago by two maiden aunts as mother had died (??) and father - well not sure. Our family were tea brokers. My aunt Gillian gave me this information as she had obtained it from her father (Edgar William Frederick Ripley). My grandmother was called Alice Maud Beavon. EWF's father was Edgar Hue Ripley who worked over in South America on the Panama Canal hence why EWF was born there. He was married to Julia Henrietta. This is one and the same family - so who are you??? Please reply as I am now intrigued that you are part of our family!! Susan.
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archer2
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Thanks, Robert.
Susan I have replied to you by Private Message.
William
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