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Maggott
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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From the Yellow Pages: Dogwood (ouch! but I remember them changing the name) 174 Oxford Road Kidlington Phone 01865 373340 (number published so I reckon they won't mind me repeating it here).
Why not give them a bell & ask if The Dog pub used to be located somewhere else
Maggott
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Many thanks Maggie and Maggott Both usefull additions I'm gradually sorting all the pubs out its surprising how many go through name changes Just back from a family history trwal in Northants and Warwick next stop must be Oxford.
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Birmingham-BIRD,WILMOT Cornwall-BRAY,PHILLIPS,RULE Devon MARLES Hereford-HAMMER,HARTLAND,TOMKINS, NEATHERWAY Leicester-WILKINS Northampton-HAKESLEY,ELLARD Northumberland-EDMESTON,LIDDELL,LOGAN,WATSON Oxfordshire-ALLEN,DUNSBY, HADLAND, MERCER,NEEDLE Shropshire-HALL Somerset-BATTEN, PERKINS Warwick-MELLOR,STANFIELD,TAYLER,TIMMS Worcestershire-HARTLAND, HODGES, MARSHALL,MOULE,DANDY,THOMAS Pembroke-DAVIES WWW. http://www.mcmullin.plus.com |
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Thank you so very much I've just got in after a wonderful concert with the BBC NOW and your post has added the icing to a great evening a photo would be perfect. So many people seem to have enjoyed helping me with my "pub crawl" Its been great to meet so many helpful chatters
Hazel
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Birmingham-BIRD,WILMOT Cornwall-BRAY,PHILLIPS,RULE Devon MARLES Hereford-HAMMER,HARTLAND,TOMKINS, NEATHERWAY Leicester-WILKINS Northampton-HAKESLEY,ELLARD Northumberland-EDMESTON,LIDDELL,LOGAN,WATSON Oxfordshire-ALLEN,DUNSBY, HADLAND, MERCER,NEEDLE Shropshire-HALL Somerset-BATTEN, PERKINS Warwick-MELLOR,STANFIELD,TAYLER,TIMMS Worcestershire-HARTLAND, HODGES, MARSHALL,MOULE,DANDY,THOMAS Pembroke-DAVIES WWW. http://www.mcmullin.plus.com |
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Hi wow what a huge amount you found for me so much more than I had already BUT its opened a can of worms with the WATTS.
It certainly looks like James WATTS and Ann SIMS who marry 1810 in Kidlington are the parents of Mary(1812) wife of Richard YOUNG.
It also seems that Richard took over the Dog in 1847 on the death of Ann WATTS
BUT Hannah WATTS from the 1841 census looks like the one bapt 1805 to James and Ann nee DAVIS who married Kidlington 2 Sep 1787 they had 9 children bapt ( I'm getting this from Family Search) Now they haven't got a James and there is a gap between Thomas bapt 1788 and William Bapt 1794. So I'm guessing that the gap was filled with at least a James who then marries Ann SIMS I think Ann DAVIS' James is the on Bap to John and Elizabeth 18 Sep 1764 and he dies before 1818(from the enclosure map)
Please can you have a quick look to see if any other births appear in that 1788-1794 gap that could have been missed by the IGI transcribers and for a James WATTs burial 1808-1818?
Many thanks
Hazel
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James WATTS m Ann DAVIS Sep 1787 I'm pretty sure it is his wid. on the Map and 1841 census she would have been b 1766 from the census and James was bap 1764 to John and Elizabeth Faulkner [who may well also link to my tree as a Mary Faulkner married Martin GILES (diresct line) in1765]
The James burial is his too although the date perfectly matches his older brother James who I assume died before 1764.
The other Banns must be for James and Ann SIMS parents of Mary They married 9 Sep 1810
Now as James and Ann DAVIS' last child is 1808 it is possible that there is only one James and both Ann Davis and Ann Sims must have been about the same age we have not got a birth /bapt for either Ann  If this is the case Ann SIMS may have been a widow which is why I cant find a bapt for Ann SIMS.
Mary who married Richard is consistently 1812 on the censuses 1841-1891 and she was given as 83 in1895 (burial) so I feel confident that she is James and Ann Sims' Mary The Thomas married to Ann, who has the Mary 1815 would likely be Thomas 1788 son of James and Ann DAVIS either way Mary is related to Ann of the Dog the question being which Ann is this?
Could you look for a death of an Ann about 1808 that may point to a second marriage for James
Don't worry about the other WATTS for the moment I have 10 for James and Ann (Davis) 1 for James and Ann (Sims) 8 for William and Hannah? at least 7 Thomas and Ann there are two thomas and Ann families from 1826 with 16 children to share between them and 10for John and Elizabeth Faulkner
Wow some pub crawl this has turned into
Cheers
Hazel
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Gold Star  and a halo Wow what a turn up for the books so that also clears up the children I had for that Thomas and a mystery Ann she was Ann Simms after all. Family search M038622 definately had James and Ann Sims and 9 Sep which as you found was one of the days the banns were called it just shows you can't rely on IGI even where it appears to be a register transcript not the first mistake we've found unfortunately.One RO refused to check an entry for me as the registers have been well covered by the IGI when we got to the Office and saw for ourselves there were blatant ommisions!
i dont know how to thank you enough for this
hazel
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Oh Dear I've just found another one!!!
Elizabeth ELLARD widow of Thomas ELLARD was Inn Keeper of The Three Horse Shoes Banbury Rd Kidlington in 1881 any ideas about this one?
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Left in 1969, went to Gosford School
, it is near Thrupp, outside Kidlington . opposite the turning to Thrupp off the A4260 now.