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slewis
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Hello all
John S Povah was born abt 1824 in England he moved to Canada, I am not sure when, but I have a marriage for him to Catherine Scott in Holton, Onterio, 11 Dec 1858.
Then I find him again on the 1881 Winnypeg, Selkirk, Manitoba census, but his wife is younger then he and named Mary J born abt 1852 Ireland, with 5 children first born in abt 1871 Onterio.
If this is his 2nd wife can any one help me find a marriage for John and Mary, and may be a death for Catherine, as I have hit a brick wall, and really would appreciate any help you can give me.
Regards Sue
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Povah Liverpool,wrexham
Kelly, Manchester, Yorkshire
Crook Liverpool, Bolton
Yeo,Barrow in Furness, Stoke Damerel
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alicemaud
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I can't find a death for Catherine.
With such a large age difference, maybe John ran off with the younger Mary J?
Anyway, I found a birth for the youngest child born in Ontario, Eva.
Misspelled PORAH on the index.
Birth: Eva Lizetta
Dec 4 1876
Father: John S. Povah
Mother: Mary Jane Galvin.
Father's prof: Joiner
Residence: Marham Village.
Will look for more.
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alicemaud
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Another one spelled PORAH.
3rd June 1872
John Francis
Father: John Sumpter Povah
Mother: Mary Jane Galvin
Father's Prof: Carpenter
Residence: Hamilton
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J.J.
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Here is Mary Jane & daughter..on the 1901...will help for date of birth...June 25th 1852, Ireland immigrated just says married..
M.E. daughter says born Manitoba...(But it is Mary, who was born Ontario)...John elsewhere...
http://automatedgenealogy.com/census/View.jsp?id=66393&highlight=41
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Janice M
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Okay, I am really excited.  
John Sumpter Povah
Patent Office
(Hinged Chair)
Filed: May 29th, 1900
http://www.canadiana.org/ECO/PageView/8_04863_327/0050?id=7b6a23d8993e1b64
I also put the site to search on another posting for you.
Early Canadiana Online
http://www.canadiana.org/ECO/mtq
Janice
Other site:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,213995.msg1420010.html#msg1420010
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Elder, Stewart, Johnston, Baskerville, Marks, Carson, Leitch, Bulloch, Thomson, Allen, Campbell, Gordon, Murray, Kelly, Chambers, Black, Cheyne, Youngson, Williamsdaughter, Anderson, Briggs, Pirie, Clark, Philp, Mannel, Lander, Rough, Lean, Bate, Lanxon, Brown, Oliver, Kitt, Shards, Bennet, Young, Petrie, Wylie, Herbertson, Martin, McAlister, Best, Ginn, Ross, McIntosh, McGillivray, Russell, Pettigrew, Fyfe, Barrie
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slewis
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Hi JJ and Janice
First can I thank you both for your help.
Yes JJ you have help me a lot with this one, its still making me crazy, I think that their were 2 John Povah in Canada at the same time.
I don't think Emma Jane father John, ( with wife Jane ) was John Sumpter Povah.
John Sumpter Povah I believe was 97 when he died, in B.C I think he married Catherine Scott, in 1858, I don't know if she died, or if he walked out on her.
But I am sure it is him living with Mary Jane in 1881, and if it is him, on the 1901 census for B.C. did he walk out on Mary Jane too, or just working away?
The fact he may have invented a Hinged Chair, is good as we all ready have 2 inventors in the family, so he could be one of mine.
I will keep looking and if I ever sort it all out I will let you all know
Thanks again for all your time and help
Regards Sue 
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Povah Liverpool,wrexham
Kelly, Manchester, Yorkshire
Crook Liverpool, Bolton
Yeo,Barrow in Furness, Stoke Damerel
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J.J.
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I missed your reply, Sue...my first email gets marked as read for some reason...
Yes, it does seem to be a different John for your Emma, but the same
John S. in all the documents if anyone ever wants to search him out it is all there...
Now where is your John? and did he ever come to Canada?
or did just Emma Jane venture over here ...do you have proof she was born here, as census data is often way off base... ( & Where IS she in 1881? ) ??  J.J.
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Janice M
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Found this on Ourroots.
The Vancouver city directory, March, 1896
J.S. Povah
http://www.ourroots.ca/e/page.aspx?id=631804
J.S. Povah
http://www.ourroots.ca/e/page.aspx?id=631728
J.S. Povah
Buckboard to brotherhood : the Baptist churches in Calgary
http://www.ourroots.ca/e/page.aspx?id=499899
Prairie Progress Commemorating the Macrorie district - Saskatchewan
Mavis Povah
http://www.ourroots.ca/e/page.aspx?id=926777
Report of the Columbia Mission - British Columbia
Rev. J.V. Povah
http://www.ourroots.ca/e/page.aspx?id=196092
Souvenir Illustrated : facts of interest, past and present, 1888-1911 - Calgary
J.S. Povah
http://www.ourroots.ca/e/page.aspx?id=876421
Janice
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Elder, Stewart, Johnston, Baskerville, Marks, Carson, Leitch, Bulloch, Thomson, Allen, Campbell, Gordon, Murray, Kelly, Chambers, Black, Cheyne, Youngson, Williamsdaughter, Anderson, Briggs, Pirie, Clark, Philp, Mannel, Lander, Rough, Lean, Bate, Lanxon, Brown, Oliver, Kitt, Shards, Bennet, Young, Petrie, Wylie, Herbertson, Martin, McAlister, Best, Ginn, Ross, McIntosh, McGillivray, Russell, Pettigrew, Fyfe, Barrie
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slewis
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Hi Janice
Thankyou so much for this informasion, I really appreciate it.
I know of Rev J V Povah, but Mavis is a new name, I will have to look out for that one.
Thanks again Regards
Sue
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Povah Liverpool,wrexham
Kelly, Manchester, Yorkshire
Crook Liverpool, Bolton
Yeo,Barrow in Furness, Stoke Damerel
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J.J.
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Try taking off the " exact spelling" on the vital stats..database...
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slewis
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Hi JJ
I am sorry, I did as you said, what did I miss, it must be me I can not see for looking. who did you find.
Regards Sue 
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Povah Liverpool,wrexham
Kelly, Manchester, Yorkshire
Crook Liverpool, Bolton
Yeo,Barrow in Furness, Stoke Damerel
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J.J.
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I know I found the IGI listing for the first marriage of John S....Here is more with wittnesses, etc..http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~maryc/halton58.htm
Odd that we can find information on this one but not the one to Mary Jane Galvin....
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