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Topic: 1891 census look-up, please - Charles & Elizabeth Glasby Chesterfield dist (Read 194 times)
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Amanda36
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Hi
I have been trying to track down Harry Verdon Glasby for many years now and don't seem to be getting any further.
In 1918 he married my ancestor Edith Payne in the district of Skipton. His marriage certificate states father Charles Glasby, school master. That is the only definate evidence I have so far. In 1920 they had a son, Albert, born in the Chesterfield district.
On Freebmd I found a Charles Glasby marriage in 1884 in the Chesterfield district (born 1863 Mosboro as per 1881 census). I am guessing, therefore, he may be Harry's father.
I have been unable to find Charles or Harry V 1901.
Any help would be very much appreciated.
Thank you
Best regards
Amanda
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Salkeld - Alston, Grassington, Earby, Burnley
Brotherton - Burnley, Barnoldswick
Layfield - Burnley
Flesher - Otley, Guiseley, Earby
Blackey - Grassington
Child - Bradford
Payne - Poulton Le Fylde, Burnley, Brierfield
Harris - Castle Bytham, Nelson, Barrowford
Sage - Boxted, Langham, West Riding, Lancashire
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Newf
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How old did he say he was on the 1918 Marriage Cert - specific age or 'of full age' ?
Oh, and Occupation ?
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex EVERETT - 1830, Scoles, Norfolk & Epping, SX OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk GOWENLOCK – 1850, Carlisle KEW – 1814, Carlisle |
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Newf
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The 1884 Marriage - Charles Glasby would seem to have married Elizabeth Smedly in Chesterfield District.
In 1891 they are in Eckington, and Charles is an Iron Moulder ....
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex EVERETT - 1830, Scoles, Norfolk & Epping, SX OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk GOWENLOCK – 1850, Carlisle KEW – 1814, Carlisle |
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Amanda36
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Hi
Thank you for your response.
At the time of the marriage, Harry Verdon was 22 and his profession was Private Royal Army Medical Corps - Iron Moulder. Father, Charles - schoolmaster and deceased.
Regards
Amanda
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Salkeld - Alston, Grassington, Earby, Burnley
Brotherton - Burnley, Barnoldswick
Layfield - Burnley
Flesher - Otley, Guiseley, Earby
Blackey - Grassington
Child - Bradford
Payne - Poulton Le Fylde, Burnley, Brierfield
Harris - Castle Bytham, Nelson, Barrowford
Sage - Boxted, Langham, West Riding, Lancashire
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Amanda36
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The 1884 Marriage - Charles Glasby would seem to have married Elizabeth Smedly in Chesterfield District.
In 1891 they are in Eckington, and Charles is an Iron Moulder ....
Hi
Please would you be kind enough to post the 1891 transcript. It may provide a clue or two.
Thank you
Best regards
Amanda
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Salkeld - Alston, Grassington, Earby, Burnley
Brotherton - Burnley, Barnoldswick
Layfield - Burnley
Flesher - Otley, Guiseley, Earby
Blackey - Grassington
Child - Bradford
Payne - Poulton Le Fylde, Burnley, Brierfield
Harris - Castle Bytham, Nelson, Barrowford
Sage - Boxted, Langham, West Riding, Lancashire
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Newf
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Here's my theory ....
Given the names in the 1891 I mentioned ...
1891 - RG12/2770; Folio 111; Page 6; - Eckington, Chesterfield District
'Spinkhill'
Charles Glasby 27 Head Iron Moulder Derby, Mosborough
Elizabeth Glasby 25 Wife Newbold
Ernest Glasby 5 son Newbold
Hubert Glasby 3 son Killamarsh
Arthur Glasby 1/12 Spinkhill
and this birth entry ....
Births Jun 1897
Glasby Henry Chesterfield Vol 7b Page 771
tbc ....
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex EVERETT - 1830, Scoles, Norfolk & Epping, SX OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk GOWENLOCK – 1850, Carlisle KEW – 1814, Carlisle |
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Newf
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cont ....
In 1901, we see the older brother Ernest, with younger siblings born post 1891, including Henry (aka Harry ?) with Grandparents in NewBold. Their surname is Elizabeth's Maiden name ... ... note PoB of Henry ..
1901 - RG13/3250; Folio: 91; Page: 54 - Newbold & Dunston
St Johns Road
William Smedley 72 Head Retired Miner Derby, Loscoe?
Grace Smedley 68 Wife Newbold
Joseph Smedley 38 son do
Edith Glasby 8 Granddau Spinkhill
Ernest Glasby 15 Grandson Labourer Newbold Moor
Henry Glasby 3 Grandson Spinkhill
William Lume 19 Boarder
John H Titlow 16 Grandson
So I'd say this is your 'Harry' - not sure where his folks are w/o further search in 1901 and/or Death Registers.
I guess he decided to jazz up his fathers job when he got married ?
I cant see any other combination which hits his DoB and the link to an Iron Moulder ...
Have you looked for his Military records ?
His middle name may be one of his Grandmother's maiden names .... could be lurking in a baptism record somewhere ...
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex EVERETT - 1830, Scoles, Norfolk & Epping, SX OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk GOWENLOCK – 1850, Carlisle KEW – 1814, Carlisle |
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Newf
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This could be the Mother Elizabeth - perhaps Charles left the area for work and the kids went with Grandparents whilst he was away ?
Deaths Jun 1897
Glasby Elizabeth 31 Chesterfield Vol 7b Page 413
PS. Why Thank you Tati 
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex EVERETT - 1830, Scoles, Norfolk & Epping, SX OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk GOWENLOCK – 1850, Carlisle KEW – 1814, Carlisle |
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Newf
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Theres a Medal Card availble for Download for him - it shows his Army number and you may find his records survived - and hence will show next of kin.
Description Medal card of - Glasby, Henry V
Corps Regiment No Rank
Royal Army Medical Corps 97540 Private
Date 1914-1920
Catalogue reference WO 372/8
Series War Office: Service Medal and Award Rolls Index, First World War
Piece - from Gibson A - to Hannas J M M
Image contains 1 medal card of many for this collection
Image Reference Format and Version Part Number Size (KB) Number of Pages Price (£)
30318 / 3178 PDF 1.2 1 309 1 3.50
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/browse-refine.asp?CatID=10&searchType=browserefine&pagenumber=1&query=*&queryType=1
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex EVERETT - 1830, Scoles, Norfolk & Epping, SX OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk GOWENLOCK – 1850, Carlisle KEW – 1814, Carlisle |
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Amanda36
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Hi
WOW
Thank you so much. The medical card is amazing. It does confirm his full name of Henry.
The 1891 census details certainly tie up with all the place names. There's a lot of information for me to work with.
Thank you so much.
Very best regards
Amanda
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Salkeld - Alston, Grassington, Earby, Burnley
Brotherton - Burnley, Barnoldswick
Layfield - Burnley
Flesher - Otley, Guiseley, Earby
Blackey - Grassington
Child - Bradford
Payne - Poulton Le Fylde, Burnley, Brierfield
Harris - Castle Bytham, Nelson, Barrowford
Sage - Boxted, Langham, West Riding, Lancashire
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Amanda36
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Theres a Medal Card availble for Download for him - it shows his Army number and you may find his records survived - and hence will show next of kin. Description Medal card of - Glasby, Henry V Corps Regiment No Rank Royal Army Medical Corps 97540 Private Date 1914-1920 Catalogue reference WO 372/8 Series War Office: Service Medal and Award Rolls Index, First World War Piece - from Gibson A - to Hannas J M M Image contains 1 medal card of many for this collection Image Reference Format and Version Part Number Size (KB) Number of Pages Price (£) 30318 / 3178 PDF 1.2 1 309 1 3.50 http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/browse-refine.asp?CatID=10&searchType=browserefine&pagenumber=1&query=*&queryType=1
Hi
Just downloaded the Med card. Unfortunately, it doesn't give me any further information. It has given me a new place of reference though.
Thank you
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Salkeld - Alston, Grassington, Earby, Burnley
Brotherton - Burnley, Barnoldswick
Layfield - Burnley
Flesher - Otley, Guiseley, Earby
Blackey - Grassington
Child - Bradford
Payne - Poulton Le Fylde, Burnley, Brierfield
Harris - Castle Bytham, Nelson, Barrowford
Sage - Boxted, Langham, West Riding, Lancashire
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Newf
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sometimes you get lucky - so if its given you a lead thats good.
Did he just have a Silver War Badge, or any actual campaign or gallantry related medals ?
Can be hard to decipher ....
Having his Army number will help research him if you want to spend a day at Kew - or post on the Armed Forces forum here, theres a couple of researchers who may be able to help you.
Browse this first ...
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/RdLeaflet.asp?sLeafletID=18&j=1
Cheers 
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex EVERETT - 1830, Scoles, Norfolk & Epping, SX OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk GOWENLOCK – 1850, Carlisle KEW – 1814, Carlisle |
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Amanda36
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Hi
As far as I can tell, the card indicates Victory and British? I don't actually know what that means but I shall look it up.
Thank you
Best regards
Amanda
PS Just followed your link, thank you. It explains the above.
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Salkeld - Alston, Grassington, Earby, Burnley
Brotherton - Burnley, Barnoldswick
Layfield - Burnley
Flesher - Otley, Guiseley, Earby
Blackey - Grassington
Child - Bradford
Payne - Poulton Le Fylde, Burnley, Brierfield
Harris - Castle Bytham, Nelson, Barrowford
Sage - Boxted, Langham, West Riding, Lancashire
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Newf
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see if you can find where the Parish Registers for Newbold are today - you might get lucky and find that his middle name is recorded.
I did mean to look at the earlier marriages on both sides to see if it surfaces as a maiden name ...
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex EVERETT - 1830, Scoles, Norfolk & Epping, SX OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk GOWENLOCK – 1850, Carlisle KEW – 1814, Carlisle |
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