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Topic: Henery Marshall 1841 Census -- Manea, Cambridgeshire - Completed (Read 252 times)
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Hi 
1841
HO107/83/2 9 13
Manea Cum Coveney
Henery Marshall, 40, Ag lab, no
Rebecca, 30, no
Mary, 13, yes
John, 11, yes
Rebecca, 5, yes
Betsy, 3, yes
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Here's a little clue to their relationships
1851
Manea
Henry Marshall Head Wid 50 Hunts Warboys
Rebecca daughter 17 Manea
Elizabeth daughter 14 manea
James son 9 manea
HO107 1765 279 14
Possibly Elizabeth is Betsey of 1841
1861 & 1871
Betsey is unmarried and home with father Henry (still a widower)
-address Clay pits, Manea.
something else to remember -1841 census adult (over 15) ages are rounded down to nearest 5 yrs
Hope this helps
Suz
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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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1861
Clay pits
manea
James Marshall head M 20 Ag lab Manea
Emily wife 20 Manea
Rebecca daughter 2 weeks Manea
next door but 5
John Marshall Head 31 ag lab Manea
Martha Marshall wife 36 Fincham Norfolk
Ellen Collins daughter 4 Fincham Norfolk
Henry marshall son 1 Manea
and next door
Henry Marshall Head 58 Wid Ag lab Warboys Hunts
Betsey marshall daughter U 24 Housekeeper
RG9 1042 28 19
It looks like John could be Henry's son -they all seemed to stay close together -but that is only my opinion!!
If you send for John's marriage cert that should tell you who his father is.
I wonder if Mary and John (children from 1841 census) were maybe from a previous marriage of Henry's -as there is quite a gap between John and Rebecca -maybe Rebecca, Betsey and James are the only children of Henry's marriage to Rebecca??? Of course they could all belong to the same parents too -but John's marriage cert would confirm who his father was.
Do you have later details of Mary (age 13 in 1841)?
Maybe if you put a post out asking for Baptisms of John and Mary - stating possible father Henry??
Suz
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This doesn't help much relationship wise but it shows a Mary Ann
1851
Floods ferry
March
Cambridge
Mary Ann Marshall Servant 23 Dairy Maid b. Manea
in household of Ebenezar Jones age44 Farmer 243 acres b. Hunts Ramsey -, wife Mary, several children and 4 servants
HO107 1765 641 4
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This is interesting
1871
Clay pits
Manea
Henry marshall head Wid 67 Ag lab Hunts Warboys
Betsey Marshall daughter U 34 manea
George Cox grandson 15 Ag lab Manea
RG10 1608 25 6
and here is George (grandson) in 1861
back Lane
Manea
Ed Cox head M 29 Ag lab
Mary Ann wife 33
Ed son 7
George son 5
William son 4
Betsey daughter 3
Sarah Ann daughter 1
RG9 1042 9 13
and marriage
Jun qtr 1854
N.Witchford
Mary Ann Marshall
Edward Cox
3b 841
so it looks like the Mary of 1841 was really Mary Ann!
seems like her children referred to Henry as Grandfather ?
Suz
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Hope this doesn't confuse???
1861
Station Rd
Manea
William Crouch Head ag lab
Mary Ann wife 37
John William son 3
Robert William 2
Elizabeth 3mth
and next door
John Marshall head 32 ag lab
Mary wife 27
Allice daughter 5
Mary Ann daughter 3 Norfolk lakes End Upwell
John son 1
RG9 1042 6 7
Mary Ann marshall married William Crouch
It seems likely Mary Ann marshall (crouch) and this John Marshall were the children of John Marshall (check marriages)
just to confuse matters even more
Rebecca Marshall (daughter of Henry and Rebecca) married Isaiah Crouch (who was the brother of William crouch who married Mary Ann Marshall (probably daughter of John Marshall)!!!!!
Rebecca died
mar qtr 1869
age 34
N Witchford
3b 377
possibly she died during/shortly after childbirth
as
Births
Mar qtr 1869
rebecca Crouch
N. Witchford
3b 624
looks like the child died too
Deaths
Sept qtr 1869
N Witchford
Rebecca Crouch
age 0
3b 337
and then Isaiah married again
Dec qtr 1870
Isaiah Crouch
Caroline bradshaw
N Witchford
3b 1225
and here they are in 1871 (children are of Rebecca)
Clay pits
Manea
Isaiah crouch head 36 ag lab
Caroline wife 27
John son 8
Ruth daughter 5
Marshall son 3
all b Manea
RG10 1608 24 3
Have fun
Suz
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Hi Jackie,
There were 2 John Marshalls
I have them both.
1861 living next door to Henry and Betsey - John and wife Martha - this John gives father Henry on marriage
1861- John Marshall wife Mary -living next door to sister Mary Ann Crouch-this Johngives father John on marriage
Both John Marshall's have sisters Mary Ann!!!!!
And Mary Ann Marshall (father John) married William Crouch
Rebecca Marshall (father Henry) married Isaiah Crouch -brother of William Crouch - Rebecca had a sister Mary Ann who married Edward Cox!!!
2 John's and 2 Mary Anns !
Hope this helps
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