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Waterfall2007
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Looking for information on a Nathaniel Bland b. 1788, Balmacellan, occupation Burgh officer and Tailor. Nathaniel married Mary King b. 1801 England and was living at High Street, New Galloway in the 1851 Census and was 63 years of age. His occupation in 1851 was also listed as Burgh Officer.
Children of Nathaniel Bland and Mary King:
Catherine Dalziel Bland b. 1825 married Robert Garrett, Castle Douglas. After Robert's death she married David Henry.
William Dalzel Bland b. October 21, 1827, Kells.
Nathaniel Bland b. June 10, 1833, Kells.
Agnes Bland b. June 5, 1836, Kells.
Janet Bland b. July 21, 1839, Kells.
There could have been other children, however, I have not found anymore in my search.
If anyone has any connection to this family or information in regard to this family, it would certainly be helpful in helping me put together my family tree.
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MonicaLesl
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Welcome to RootsChat 
One more child showing on the family's 1841 Census entry. Bland has been transcribed on the index I am looking at as Blaine:
Nathaniel Blaine 50, tailor
Mary Blaine 40 b. England
John Blaine 15
Nathaniel Blaine 5
William Blaine 6
Agnes Blaine 4
Address: High St., Kells
Regards.
Monica
Just in case you have got your dates out, these are the christening entries for daughters Janet and Agnes:
JANET BLAND Christening: 16 NOV 1830 Kells, Kirkcudbright, Scotland
AGNES BLAND Christening: 05 JUN 1836 Kells, Kirkcudbright, Scotland
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........
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MonicaLesl
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Possible marriage of William b. 1827 to an Isabella McMinn. This looks like him in the 1871 Census:
William Bland 42, gardener, b. New Galloway, Kirkcudbright
Isabella Bland 36, b. Buittle, Kirkcudbright
William Bland 8, b. Dumfries
Walter Bland 6, b. Dumfries
Andrew Bland 1, b. Dumfries
Address: Loch Vale Cottage, Dumfries
This looks like some of their children's birth entries on IGI at www.familysearch.org:
1. NATHANIEL MCKIE BLAND Birth: 17 OCT 1864 Dumfries, Dumfries, Scotland
2. ANDREW MCMINN BLAND Birth: 11 NOV 1869 Dumfries, Dumfries, Scotland
3. GRACE MCMINN BLAND Birth: 29 FEB 1872 Dumfries, Dumfries, Scotland
And William and Isabella's marriage entry:
WILLIAM BLAND Marriages:Spouse: ISABELLA MCMINN
Marriage: 17 JUN 1864 Rerrick, Kirkcudbright, Scotland
Their marriage entry on Scotlands People would let you confirm the name of his parents to verify its the correct William.
Regards.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........
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Waterfall2007
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Thank you all so very much for the information, I am very grateful as I have been stuck on my Bland family for a long time.
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Hi Waterfall
I have a very early census for Balmaclellan 0 1790s - which lists al the inhabitants in family groups. Also various other local bits and pieces from there, Kells (New Galloway) and Parton. I'm in the middle of moving house and, unfortunately, I haven't brought them with me. I'll be going back towards the end of next week and check up on your Blands then.
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Gadget
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Waterfall2007
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Hi Gadget
Thank you so much for replying to my posting, I really look forward to hearing from you in the near future. Hope the moving house goes smoothly.....
Regards
Waterfall
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Sharron Elizabeth
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Hi Gadget,
Just read your post and wondered if you could help me as well ? My ancesters were born in and around Balmaclellan and Parton ... maybe you could look up the Currie's there and supply info that I still don't have. In particular looking for William Currie, son of John and Margaret (McCartney) Currie. Also any info on the McCartney family would be greatly appreciated.
regards,
Sharron Elizabeth
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Waterfall2007
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Hi Sharon
Just read your posting and wondering if you have a connection to the Bland, Heron, Dalziel, Smith and Garrett families of Kirkcudbright, New Galloway, Kelton, etc. If so, I would appreciate hearing from you as I do believe our family had a Currie connection.
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Waterfall2007
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I have a very early census for Balmaclellan 0 1790s - which lists al the inhabitants in family groups. Also various other local bits and pieces from there, Kells (New Galloway) and Parton. I'm in the middle of moving house and, unfortunately, I haven't brought them with me. I'll be going back towards the end of next week and check up on your Blands then.
Regards
Gadget
Hi Gadget
I would really like a copy of the 1790's list you have of the inhabitants in family groups in the Balmaclellan, Kelton and Parton region. I think it would help me a great deal sort out of some of my family.
Also is it possible that you could look up the marriage certificate of William Dalyell(Dalziel) Maitland Bland born October 21, 1827 Kells to Isabella McMinn on June 17, 1864 at Rerrick. I am trying to figure out if is name was indeed William Dalyell(Dalziel) Maitland Bland and if this name was added to his birth name because of some family connection to the Maitland family as the Maitland family were prominent in the Kirkcudbright area.
NOTE: William's middle name has been spelt Dalziel, Dalzell and Dalyell). William had one sister carrying the middle name of Dalziel (Catherine Dalziel Bland born 1825 and married to Robert Garrett). His other siblings carried the middle names of McKie or McMinn. So this kind of puts things in a different persecptive as I guess have been going mostly on the scottish naming patterns and getting four different names in one family has me put of track especially when I cannot find a Dalziel, Maitland or McKie ancestor. The McMinn name of course would come from his mother Isabella Bland.
In the 1871 census William Dalziel Maitland Bland was a gardener, age 42 living at Loch Vale Cottage, Dumfries. Any information on Loch Vale Cottge, Dumfries or who owned it?
In the 1881 census he was listed as living in England as a gardener/domestic servant at Cart Lane Seawood Cottage, Upper and Lower Allithwiate, Lancashire, England. Any information on Cart Lane Seawood Cottage?
If you can be of any help I would surely appreciate it.
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Gadget
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For Waterfall - sorry no Blands or Maitlands in the early census
However, there is a Margaret Dalzel, wife of a James Blain living at one of the Shirmers farms (the area to the south of the parish running down Loch Ken)
There are no marriage certificates in Scotland before 1855. What there are are Banns/marriage entries in the parish records. These are available on the IGI ( www.familysearch.org) or on Scotlands people
I have no info on Loch Vale cottage, Dumfries
Also, it might be worth you putting these up as separate queries as they span different family groups and both counties.
I also note that you've got a question re Lancashire in there. That again is another board.
For Sharron Elizabeth - can you give some dates please?
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Gadget
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Sharron
I'm not sure if this is your John Currie/Curry and would love his dates.
This is an extract from a letter that my 3 x grt grandfather wrote in 1835 which describes his journey from Balmaclellan to a farm in Merionethshire, Wales. They went by sea and landed near Birkenhead:
I told John Curry and got him to come all the way. All things being ready or nearly so, on the term our wife had another daughter which we called Agnes. So we had to stop to eight of June And to make things well... I freighted a sloop, or at least John Currie did to take the things to the gentleman. She belonged to Kirkcudbright. She was to meet us at Creetown. So William Stewart, Scroggie, John Currie's horse and two of our own with two new carts and a young chestnut mare all made off on 6 of June, pretending I had a farm taken at the shore. So it was not known to some of the carters (until) they were out or, I may say, near the sea. And left all our old things in Scroggie's Barn. I never will get anyone forwarding for (me), and much money. All is lost as Samuel was never very active. So they stand. We stayed all night in Kirkbrid (Kirkbride - a farm just outside Creetown) with our old friend.
I pray Noah being charged dearest and worst used on our journey. We shipped on Saturday and was to be landed in Cheshire at or anent (level with) Liverpool. We expected to land at our destination Sunday evening but unfortunately it, I may say, came on a storm. We, on Sunday, was under mid -sails and running into disaster and cast anchor where we had to out and cut grass drives for our cattle and sheep and carry water. Fortunately, I had corn and some hay for the horses on board. We made out again and on Tuesday we came to port. It being low water, they cast anchor again in River Mersey. John Currie and Robert Wilson went out to look for grass. It came such a hurricane there could be no continuation. (It was not until) Wednesday evening before John or Robert could get in. I have not seen a stormier day since, although we have seen many. So on Wednesday evening after dark we got all our cattle out, and on Thursday we got our furniture and our two carts.
The words in parenthesis are my explanations while I was transcribing it.
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Gadget
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Sharron Elizabeth
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Hi Gadget,
My gr.gr.grandfather, Robert Currie, was born Nov.18,1829, near Balmaclellan. He is the son of John (questionable whether he might also be Thomas) Currie, b.1790, d.abt.1840, Scotland, who m. Margaret McCartney, b.1790, d. Feb.19,1871 in East Wawanosh, Ont., Canada.
Margaret McCartney Currie emmigrated to Canada in 1849 with 4 of her sons and 2 daughters. 2 other sons went to Australia and 1 son (William ?) stayed in Scotland. I would love to be able to follow Williams' trail.
Also, Margaret's history would be nice to find. I have no info on the McCartneys at all. She was a brave woman, or a desparate one, to pick up, leave 3 sons behind, and take the rest to Canada. I do not have a picture of her but I do know there is one very small one in existance with some relatives here ... my next chore.
Thank you for your assistance,
Sharron
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Gadget
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Hi Sharron
This is all very interesting because part of my Burgess family went over to Ontario from the same area around the same time - a brother, John, had gone over earlier in the 1820s.
There just might be some friendship/neighbourly link here, given the reference in the letter. Leave it with me and I'll have a look.
It won't be straight away though.
Regards
Gadget
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Sharron Elizabeth
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Hi Gadget,
I've kind of gotten off track since Christmas but I'm ready to dive back in to this genealogy thing.
I was wondering if you had been able to find out anything further on the John Currie referred to in your g.g.g.grandfathers diary.
I know that my g.g.g.grandfather, John Currie, worked on farms and moved from farm to farm as all his children were born in different parts of the country around Kirkcudbright.
I would still like to be able to find some McCartneys who are looking for a long lost aunt, or at least a little history of the McCartneys. John's death date would be nice to find as well.
I know this is putting a lot on you but I am willing to be directed in any direction for some answers.
With warn regards,
Sharron
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