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Spinners of Worth
« on: Tuesday 04 September 07 10:06 BST (UK) »

 
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I have Caroline Spinner of Worth born about 1830 who married my gt gt grandfather George Spratling in March 1864 at St Clements in Sandwich. She was his second wife. I believe she had a daughter Lucy who was a witness at the marriage of George's daughter Ann in 1877.

Can you tell me anything about Caroline's parents, siblings etc?

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Re: Spinners of Worth
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 04 September 07 19:31 BST (UK) »

Hi
I have found Caroline's family on the 1851 census

James Spinner 1795 born Sandwich
Elizabeth 1794 Mongeham
Ann Bunrill 1835 born Worth miss spelt Word on census
Frederick Burnwell 1838.

As 2 of the children have the same second name this could be Elizabeths maiden name/
census reference Class H0107, Piece 1631, folio 166, page 38.
Hope it helps
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Re: Spinners of Worth
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 04 September 07 20:02 BST (UK) »

Hi
I have just had a look in the IGI and James married an Elizabeth Wooton 14 march 1835 Walmer Deal. James's baptisum is given as 27/7/1794 parents Richard and Ann. Batch number 9017837 sheet 01.
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Re: Spinners of Worth
« Reply #3 on: Friday 07 September 07 10:02 BST (UK) »


       Thanks Panda for that information, will get me started on the family.

        Regards Finnisfinder.
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Re: Spinners of Worth
« Reply #4 on: Friday 07 September 07 20:00 BST (UK) »

Hi, sorry been away for a few days, will get back to you asap with any info I have for you

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Home Town: Deal
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Uphall, Edingburgh
Family Names: Redsull, Brodie, Wall, Broome
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Re: Spinners of Worth
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 09 September 07 23:25 BST (UK) »

Hi, sorry its taken me so long to reply!I've been purposely leaving the Spinner family to last, as it looks such as big complicated family.

I have gathered some info which is probably better emailed to you as quite a large amount. Have booked up library time tomorrow now the children have returned to school, and GOOD NEWS... our friendly shopkeeper has put me in touch with Direct Descendants of the Spinners who still live in Worth.

Just a little background info:
The name Worth is derived from the Old English 'Word' defined as 'an enclosure'. You'll see it listed many ways:
[1226: Wurth or Wurtha][1362: Worthe][1417: Worth or Worde][1543: Woord][1575: Word][1600: Wearth][1600 : Wearth 1799: Word Street]
[/i]In the 1881 Census you'll notice its listed as Word Street.[i]

Originally, Worth Parish covered three boroughs: Felderland, Hacklinge and Word Street.

however, I can tell you a few bits now;
Buried in Deal all together are:

James. 67 yrs Resident in this parish, died 18th Sept 1862, aged 84 years.
Also Mary Spinner? (Maybe Mary Goldfinch/Wood, James 2nd Wife)
Elizabeth Spinner, wife of James (1st wife? as marriage listed for James and Mary Goldfinch/Wood both listed as widows) died Dec 31st 1877 aged 93 years.

Alfred Henry Spinner died Aug 24th 1919 aged 62 years (? offspring of James)
Lousia Apr 14 th 1933 aged 76 years (Alfreds wife)
Ivy May Spinner died 13th Jan 1937 aged 41 years.

Frederick Lass, died Nov 23rd 1902 aged 61 years.
Also Elizabeth Ann Spinner, sister of Frederick Apr 3rd 1886 aged 56 years

Ellen Sarah Spinner, eldest daughter of the above, Died March 25th 1923 aged 62 years.
Also youngest daughter Fanny Mary Spinner, died Dec 30th 1949 aged 83 years.

Last but not least
Richard Spinner who died on 5th Feb 1871 aged 53?? years (I think he may of been James Brother as opposed to father)

Jan 6th 1793
Ann: daur of William and Elizabeth Burvill Married Richard: son of William and Elizabeth Spinner (Parish of DOVER)

Buried here in WORTH, we have our fair share of Spinners, but in the old part there is
( I think these are the parents of James and Richard Spinner)
William Spinner died either 1801 0r 1816 and his wife Ann Spinner (? Burvill? maybe the connection with Frederick and Ann) died 1801 or 1816.

Burnwell? Bunrill? I think you'll find this is Burvill.

anyway I am hopeful that Kit and George will beable to sort the muddle out and they also inform me they have lots of photographs of relations, so I will be intouch with you as soon as.

I do know for sure that James Spinner lived in my house 'Old Blue Pigeons' in 1843
also looking through piles of paper noticed this announcement (same name as yr username):

13 th Nov 1834 Joseph Burvill (Bachelor) married Mary Finnis spinster. Witnesses James and Ann Burvill

now I have you completely muddled I'll bid you goodnight
I will be in touch
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Claire






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Re: Spinners of Worth
« Reply #6 on: Monday 10 September 07 23:01 BST (UK) »

Hi again,

Found in my huge pile of papers a little more information which may of be some use to you.

St Clements Sandwich: by banns- 8th July 1826
James Spinner (widow) Eastry MARRIED Mary Goldfinch (widow) Eastry.
Witnesses: Richard Deveson ad Elizabeth Deveson.

Now these next bits might not be related... but record states:

Thomas and Mary Goldfinch- Offspring
Son: James: Born: 12th Oct 1820
Son: George Newman: Born 19th Feb 1822
Daur: Matilda: Born 16th Dec 1823
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Re: Spinners of Worth
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 11 September 07 09:50 BST (UK) »


   Thanks Claire for all the wonderful information. Haven't had time to digest it at the moment.

Caroline Spinner married George Spratling when he was at the Bell and Anchor pub in High St Sandwich. His first wife Charlotte Harlow died in 1862 a few hours after giving birth to their son Zara. By 1881 George was in the asylum at Chartham, Caroline was a "nurse" at a retired florist's home in Margate.(Census 1881). 1891 she was a laundress in a boarding house in Broadstairs. She died Q1 Thanet Reg District. George in fact had senile decay. Have copies of letters sent to his brother in Australia, telling of his return to Sandwich and was a lot better. He died in Eastry Union Workhouse in 1909.

I'm originally from Sandwich. A cousin of my Mum was married in Worth church. I think his wife's family lived in the cottages as you come from Sandwich, before the left turn into Worth. We were in Sandwich for the day over the Bank Holiday weekend. Don't have any relatives there now. Have you seen the Open Sandwich web site? Very interesting.

My side of the Finnis family were from Deal, my gt gt grandfather was a butcher in Sandwich. Though I think that Finnises were originally from the East Langdon/ Dover area. There are a number of branches, but will check out Joseph.
Thanks again, Finnisfinder but more often known as Maggie.
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Re: Spinners of Worth
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 23 February 08 16:00 GMT (UK) »

Hi Finnisfinder

I don't know if you are still looking for information on Caroline so, just in case, there is now a baptism on the IGI http://www.familysearch.org for Caroline SPINNER at Worth 1829 (dau of James and Elizabeth as expected)

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Re: Spinners of Worth
« Reply #9 on: Monday 25 February 08 09:43 GMT (UK) »


Thanks for that, Finnisfinder.
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Re: Spinners of Worth
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 13 July 08 19:33 BST (UK) »

Hi there,

I'm new to all this so forgive me if I'm jumping into something incorrectly, but I'm descended from the Spinners of the Deal/Eastry areas and I wonder if our information tallies up. I found this thread from a search on 'spinner' and 'deal'. There are some names here who ring bells, although I've only just got started.

Cam, you're right - it is a *huge* complicated family!

Here is what I have so far:

Robert Spinner, married Ann Barwick (haven't got the years to hand). One of their children was William Spinner, born 1814, who married Sarah Ann Bradley born 1815

William and Sarah's children were:

Elizabeth (b.1840)
William (b.1842)
Eliza Harriet (b.1844)
Robert (b. 1847)
James (b. 1849)
John (known as Jack) (born 1858)
George, my father's grandfather, born 1857.


George married Celia Stone, born 1858 in Malden. Their descendents are Gladys (1897, died 1955), Celia Getrude (1879), May (1886), Elizabeth (1889), Florence Maud (1881) and another sister Louisa (year unknown at present).

One descendant from that lot: Michael Patrick, born 1930 to Gladys in Wimbledon - he's my father - but not a Spinner. He's a Devlin. Although there may be some controversy about that as we're not sure Gladys was married to Michael's father - so he may be a Spinner after all.

(ETA: At some point, the Spinners turn up in Streatham. They seem to have migrated there from Deal sometime between the 1881 and 1891 censuses, then on to the Wimbledon area. We think this is something to do with George b1857, who I've managed to ascertain was an Inmate Attendant at the Surrey County Lunatic Asylum, Wandsworth).

Does this help anyone, or can we tie anything up? This may well be a different branch (there seem to be hundreds of George Spinners, for example) but hopefully this info might be useful to someone?

Lisa
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