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Re: Mason-Brown
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 13 January 08 20:54 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Sue.

Can anyone see Edward and Sarah Brown in 1901. Did they maybe move to Aylestone area as well. That may confirm link
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Re: Mason-Brown
« Reply #16 on: Monday 14 January 08 08:01 GMT (UK) »
Hi all

I am looking to see if anyone has facilites to trace this family back through 1871,1861,1851 and 1841
census records. Note large age variances.

In 1881 in St Mary's, Leicester

Edward Brown 40, Labourer, Claybrook Magna
Sarah Brown 36, Factory Hand, Lutterworth
John Brown, 14, Factory Hand, Claybrook Magna
Edward Brown 9, Leicester
Mary Brown 4, Ibstock.

1891 St. Mary's Leicester

Edward Brown head age 45 b Claybrook Magna occ ag lab
Sarah Brown wife age age 43 b Lutterworth
John Wm Brown son age 19 b Claybrook Magna occ india rubber worker
Edward Brown son age 17 b Leicestershire
Mary Brown dau age 15 b Ibstock occ machinest (boot)

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Re: Mason-Brown
« Reply #17 on: Monday 14 January 08 08:44 GMT (UK) »
1871 RG10/3286/85/32. possibly them.
william lines age 61. b. barrow on trent. occ. shoe maker. head.
ann lines age 64. b. south winfield,derbyshire. occ. shoe binder. wife.
samuel lines age 19. b. leicestershire. occ. carpenter. son.
edward brown age 28. b. claybrook magna. occ. elastic?weaver. lodger.
sarah age 24. b. lutterworth. occ. elastic weaver.  lodgers wife.
john william brown age 17. b. claybrook magna. lodgers son.(age obviously transcribed wrongly suspect it should be 4)
living at 47, great holme street,st.marys,leicester.
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« Reply #18 on: Monday 14 January 08 08:56 GMT (UK) »
possibly edward in 1861
1861 RG9/2244/96/13.
robert clark age 28. b. claybrook magna. occ. farmer. head.
lydia age 27. b. ditto. wife.
robert age 6. b. ditto. son.
jane age 2. b. ditto. daughter.
joseph age 1. b. ditto. son.
thomas smith age 23. b. warwickshire. occ. carter. servant.
mary hackett age 18. occ. dairymaid. servant.
edward brown age 16. b. claybrook magna. occ. carter. servant.
living at claybrook magna,leicestershire.
reg.dist. lutterworth.
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« Reply #19 on: Monday 14 January 08 09:04 GMT (UK) »
1851 HO107/2078/83/3.
edward brown age 40. b. claybrooke. head.(cannot make out occ.)
catherine age 38. b. hinchley,leicestershire. wife.
john age 11. b. claybrooke. son.
charles age 8. b. ditto. son.
edward age 6. b. ditto. son.
mary age 6. b. ditto. daughter.
thomas age 3. b. ditto. son.
catherine age 1. b. ditto. daughter.
living at claybrook,leicestershire.
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Re: Mason-Brown
« Reply #20 on: Monday 14 January 08 09:08 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks Wozzle.

I hope I am chasing the right family!

Info I have:

1. 1901 Census Mary Mason (nee Brown), 24, b. Leicester

2. Marriage Cert Apr 1899 age 22, father Edward Brown

Only Mary b 1877 +/- 2 years with father Edward is family I am looking for above but birth place as Ibstock.

There is another Mary b.1874 in 1881 census with father Edward born in Leicester.

How can I be certain of correct family?
Is it normal for say Ibstock to later be put as Leicester?

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« Reply #21 on: Monday 14 January 08 09:12 GMT (UK) »
1841 here is the family before edward juniors birth.
1841. HO107/597/book16/8/15.
edward brown age 30. occ. stock man.
catherine brown age 35.
william brown age 3.
john brown age 1.
living at great claybrook,leicestershire.
all born in county.
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Re: Mason-Brown
« Reply #22 on: Monday 14 January 08 09:14 GMT (UK) »
That's bril Wozzle.

I have seen records for Claybrook on IGI with parents Edward Brown and Catherine.

They are the same ones.
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Re: Mason-Brown
« Reply #23 on: Monday 14 January 08 12:27 GMT (UK) »
Hi again

Sorry to be a pain, but can anyone spot the family below on the 1901 Census.

1891 Census 
St. Mary's Leicester

Edward Brown head age 45 b Claybrook Magna occ ag lab
Sarah Brown wife age age 43 b Lutterworth
John Wm Brown son age 19 b Claybrook Magna occ india rubber worker
Edward Brown son age 17 b Leicestershire
Mary Brown dau age 15 b Ibstock occ machinest (boot)

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« Reply #24 on: Monday 14 January 08 20:16 GMT (UK) »
Greeting’s Again …..Donez

1901. Census returns :~
RG 13. / 3002./ 30. / Page. 6.

Leicester.
St. James Aylestone Park.
Duncan Road.

Edward Brown. Head Mar. 53. Lab in Sand Pit Blaby. b Claybrooke
Sarah. Wife. 48.   b Lutterworth.

Also within the same Household
Alfred Norwothley. Boarder. WID. 40. Overseer’s Assistant ( Rates )   b Alderley Edge Cheshire. 

I believe this is the details for Edward & Sarah’s Marriage

September Qrt. 1869.
Edward Brown. ~ Sarah Emma TILLEY.
Lutterworth District. 
Cert No, 7a 7.

Baptisms :~

Sarah Emma Tilley.
13th. September 1847.
Lutterworth
Father :~ John.
Mother. :~ Elizabeth. 

Charles Brown.
23rd. December. 1877.
St. Deny’s Parish Church
Ibstock.
Father. :~ Edward.
Mother. :~ Sarah Ann.
Dec Qrt. 1877.
Cert No, 7a. 84.

Mary Brown.
16th. August. 1876.
St, Deny’s Parish Church.
Ibstock.
Father :~ HOWARD. Brown.
Mother. :~ Sarah.
Jan Feb. Mar. Qrt. 1876.
Cert No. 84.

I Just wonder if the Registrar miss understood
the Christian name for Mary’s Father ?
or the Transcribers did ?

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Re: Mason-Brown
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 15 January 08 08:42 GMT (UK) »
That's great Mike, yet again you have come up trumps.

I was so worried that I was chasing the wrong Brown family, but your 1901 address of Duncan Road, for Edward born Claybrook has put my mind at rest. I was born at my Gran's house in Duncan Road.

The other information will save me a hard slog through church records.

Again thanks for your efforts on my behalf.
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Re: Mason-Brown
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 15 January 08 09:11 GMT (UK) »
in case you are interested here is the tilley family
1851 HO107/2078/315/29.
john tilley age 26. b. bitteswell,leicestershire. occ. labourer(in the fields).head.
elizabeth age 27. b. lutterworth. wife.
sarah age 3. b. ditto. daughter.
caroline age 1. b. ditto. daughter.
living at bakehouse lane,lutterworth,leicestershire.

1861
john tilley age 35. b. bitteswell. occ. agr.lab. head.
elizabeth age 35. b. lutterworth. wife.
caroline age 10. b. ditto. daughter.
john age 8. b. ditto. son.
living at lutterworth,leicestershire.

1861
here is sarah tilley transcribed as filley
elizabeth chapman age 47. b. bitteswell. occ. school misstress. head.(widowed)
sarah tilley age 13. b. lutterworth. visitor.
living at bitteswell,leicestershire.
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« Reply #27 on: Tuesday 15 January 08 09:18 GMT (UK) »
poss christening.
name. john tilley
date. 5th dec 1824.
place. bitteswell,leicestershire.
parents john-hannah tilley.
ext.rec. IGI
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« Reply #28 on: Thursday 17 January 08 06:04 GMT (UK) »
Greeting’s Again Donez…..

As promised

Fiche DE 1717 / 11. 1st Fiche of Two fiches.

Baptism Registers reads thus :~

St. Deny’s Parish Church.
Ibstock. Leicestershire

Page No. 30.
Entry No. 233.
16th. April. 1876.
MARY Daughter of
EDWARD & Sarah Brown.( very clear as Edward )
Ibstock.
Collier.

K. Brookes Curate.

Page. 36.
Entry No. 285.
23rd. December. 1877.
Charles. Son of
EDWARD & Sarah Brown.
Ibstock.
Collier.
K. Brookes. Curate.

MARRIAGE. :~

Fiche DE 4912 / 2. 5th Fiche of 9 Fiches.

St. Peter’s Parish Church.
Claybrooke. Leicestershire.
Reads thus :~
Page. No. 140.
Entry No. 280.

September. 5th. 1869.
Edward Brown. 25. Bachelor.
Labourer.
Great Claybrooke.
Father. :~ Edward Brown. Frame Work Knitter.

Sarah. E. TILLEY. 22. Spinster.
Great Claybrooke.
Father. :~ John Tilley. Labourer.   

Married in this Church by Banns.
By Me :~ Lewis Moor. Curate.

Edward signed by Mark = X
Sarah by own signature.= Sarah Emma Tilley.

Wit’s :~
George Pilgrim. By Mark = X
Ann Johnson.

Hope this is of help to you.

MIKE.
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