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Fishing Boat Tragedy
« on: Sunday 09 September 07 15:41 BST (UK) »

Hi there,

I was wondering if anyone would be able to help me with some research I am currently doing on one of my ancestors.

Alexander Cowie from Buckie drowned at sea on the 19th Oct 1864. It states on his death cert that he lost his life during a gale while on a fishing boat and he was aged 40yrs (unfortunately I have been unable to find his birth cert)

If anyone out there could provide me with any info regarding this incident or his family it would be much appreciated.

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Re: Fishing Boat Tragedy
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 09 September 07 15:56 BST (UK) »

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alexander cowie age 40 b. rathven,banffshire. occ. whitefisher
ann cowie age 35. b. ditto. wife.
dowie ellen cowie age 20. b. ditto. wife?
john age 11. b. ditto. son.
margaret age 9. b. ditto. daughter.
jane age 7. b. ditto. daughter.
jane age 3. b. ditto. daughter.
jessie age 2. b. ditto. daughter.
john age 2mnths b. ditto. son.
living at new street,rathven,banffshire.
there seems to be something wrong with this entry 2 wifes 2 children named john,2 named jane. unfortunately i cannot see the image so cannot check to see what is wrong.
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Re: Fishing Boat Tragedy
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 09 September 07 16:03 BST (UK) »

do you have the 1851 census only if you do not i will post it if you want
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« Reply #3 on: Sunday 09 September 07 16:15 BST (UK) »

Hi Wozzle,

Thanks for you quick reply and info.  The info I have is that is wife was called Margaret and she died in Aug 1870.  The problem I am finding is that there are sooooo many people with the same names from that area that it is difficult to establish which are the ones from my family.

Thanks for the offer but I have already looked at the 1851 census.

Thanks again for your help.

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Re: Fishing Boat Tragedy
« Reply #4 on: Monday 29 October 07 02:58 GMT (UK) »

Have you tried the site www.moray.gov.uk/LocalHeritage for details.  They are very helpful.  It lists An Alex "Bullen" Cowie and Peter "Bullen" Cowie as being drowned Oct 20, 1864.  "Bullen" would be their T-name.    Lynne
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« Reply #5 on: Monday 29 October 07 19:37 GMT (UK) »

Hi Lynne,

Many thanks for the website address I am sure it will be very helpful.  The info about Alex and Peter Cowie is great.  You say that "bullen" is the t-name what does that actually mean.

Look forward to hearing from you.

Thanks once again

Penny Smiley
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Re: Fishing Boat Tragedy
« Reply #6 on: Monday 29 October 07 19:52 GMT (UK) »

Hi Penny

Perhaps someone else out there can explain T-names.  All I know is that it is used to differentiate families with the same name. Buckie is full of Cowies, Sandend full of Smiths, Portknockie full of Mairs etc.  Sometimes it refers to a physical characteristic.   I thought that Moray might be able to find a newspaper article on the tragedy since you have a firm date.  Happy hunting!...Lynne
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Re: Fishing Boat Tragedy
« Reply #7 on: Monday 29 October 07 21:04 GMT (UK) »

Hi Lynne,

Thanks very much I will carry on digging!

Penny
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Re: Fishing Boat Tragedy
« Reply #8 on: Monday 29 October 07 21:28 GMT (UK) »

Penny, another website to try:  www.buckieheritage.org
There are a few email addresses you could try on this site...Lynne
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« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 30 October 07 18:38 GMT (UK) »

Thanks very much Lynne I will give this site a try

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Re: Fishing Boat Tragedy
« Reply #10 on: Friday 22 February 08 17:09 GMT (UK) »

I think the incident you are referring to was the Shamrock Disaster. Several ancestors of mine died in the same incident. I've not found out much about it but imagine the folk at Buckie's fishing museum will.
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« Reply #11 on: Saturday 23 February 08 17:59 GMT (UK) »

Hi Smithgor

Thanks for the info, I will see if they will be able to help with my research.  If I get any info of interest I will let you know.

Thanks once again.

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Re: Fishing Boat Tragedy
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 06 March 08 21:17 GMT (UK) »

Alexander Cowie from Buckie drowned at sea on the 19th Oct 1864 .... he was aged 40yrs (unfortunately I have been unable to find his birth cert)

There were no birth certificates before 1855, when civil registration began, so the best you could get would be a baptism, if there was a record and if it has survived.

What were the names of his parents?
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« Reply #13 on: Thursday 06 March 08 21:43 GMT (UK) »

Hi Forfarian,

I sadly haven't got the names of his parents.  I have had a look at the baptism records but because I have such little information  and there are so many Alexander Cowies it has been difficult to find which is the right one.

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Re: Fishing Boat Tragedy
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 06 March 08 22:14 GMT (UK) »

Ah. I assumed that you had them because they are normally stated on a death certificate after 1855.

Yes, it is going to be extremely difficult to work out which Alexander Cowie he was.

LIBINDX at http://libindx.moray.gov.uk/mainmenu.asp has three mentions of him, but seems unsure whether his father was Alexander or Peter.

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