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mobleys of sulgrave 1807-1841
« on: Thursday 13 September 07 06:30 BST (UK) »

looking for a connection between thomas mobley c 1807 and nathaniel mobley c1820 are they in any way related.
thomas lived in sulgrave not sure if he was born there
nathaniel was born in sulgrave
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Re: mobleys of sulgrave 1807-1841
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 13 September 07 09:08 BST (UK) »

Nathaniels' father John MOBLEY was with him in 1851, aged 60, which gives a birth year of about 1790-91, which may be a bit young to have a son in 1807. John's birthplace was Sulgrave.

In 1851 there is a Thomas aged 44 with wife Susannah, and family in Sulgrave. Says he was born there. Is this the Thomas you mean. If so he has an uncle James MOBLEY living with him, aged 78, born Sulgrave.

Could John and Thomas be brothers.

There was a William born c1797 in Sulgrave as well.

The IGI has a number of submitted entries for some Sulgrave MOBLEYs. Looks like the above James married Alice FRENCH in 1792. Also John marrying c1818 at Sulgrave. No extracted entries.

Looking on Familysearch they have the Bishops Transcripts 1705-1880 on two films, which you can order through your local FHC. This should have who belongs to who. unless someone else has access to the actual registers.

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Re: mobleys of sulgrave 1807-1841
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 13 September 07 09:43 BST (UK) »

thanks for that eysee
that is the right thomas.
and the right nathaniel.
i was looking for the connection for someone else who got in touch with me.
i will pass on the info that you have given to me
regarding the ages being a bit young i suppose if you added a couple of years on one and took a couple of years off the other it would seem a bit better.
still as you say the easiest way would be to order the films.
once again thanks.
mick.
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Re: mobleys of sulgrave 1807-1841
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 13 September 07 19:57 BST (UK) »

Hi Wozzle

Looked at the P.R's for Sulgrave today and there were not much more help.

The earlist baptisms I found was for a

James son of Wm Mobley and Deborah his wife March 31 1799
Mary Ann the daughter of William Mobley and Deborah his wife August the Seventh 1801

Deborah seems to have married William at Moreton Pinkney may have died and then
if so he married Elizabeth Walden (also a Widow) in Sulgrave in 1818.

I have full details if any use.

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Re: mobleys of sulgrave 1807-1841
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 13 September 07 20:07 BST (UK) »

yes please seahall.
thanks.
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Re: mobleys of sulgrave 1807-1841
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 13 September 07 20:08 BST (UK) »

There are two close baptisms

Richard the son of James Mobley and Alice his wife December the fourth 1804
John Son of James Mobley & Alice his wife April 21 1805

If John's was a late baptism I have his marriage details in full also the baptism of Nathaniel.

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Re: mobleys of sulgrave 1807-1841
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 13 September 07 20:10 BST (UK) »

The possible baptism for Thomas as no later one

Thomas Son of William Mobley & Elizabeth his wife August 12 1805

Will send in a moment the marriage details for William's 2nd marriage.

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Many Burton Latimer names Nths Many Isham names Nths Many Orlingbury names Nths
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Re: mobleys of sulgrave 1807-1841
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 13 September 07 20:18 BST (UK) »

Hi again Mick

John married Sarah Coleman in 1819

Baptism Pg 17 No 133 Octr 24 1820
Nathaniel Son of John & Sarah Mobley Sulgrave Taylor

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Re: mobleys of sulgrave 1807-1841
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 13 September 07 21:25 BST (UK) »

John's occupation on 1851 census when he was living with Nathaniel was Master Tailor.

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Re: mobleys of sulgrave 1807-1841
« Reply #9 on: Friday 14 September 07 08:42 BST (UK) »

To go with Ian's census details.

1841 Sulgrave

Pg 32 Folio 3
WILLIAM MOBLEY 40 AG LAB Y
ELIZABETH 40 Y
SARAH 20  Y
ANN 15 Y

Pg 33 Folio 3
JAMES MOBLEY 65 AG LAB Y
GEORGE 27 AG LAB Y

Pg 42 Folio 8
NATHANIEL MOBLEY 20 AG LAB Y
CATHERINE 20 Y
JOHN 1 Y

Pg 44 Folio 9
WILLIAM WATERS 54 PENSIONER Y
ANN 52 N
SUSANNA    50 Y
/ GEORGE 23 N

SUSAN MOBLEY 26 N
ANN MOBLEY 5 Y
JEMIMA MOBLEY 3 Y

WILLIAM   WATERS 16 AG LAB Y
// JOHN WATERS 13 Y

All in same household

Pg 51 Folio 12
JOHN MOBLEY 45 TAILOR Y







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Many Burton Latimer names Nths Many Isham names Nths Many Orlingbury names Nths
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Re: mobleys of sulgrave 1807-1841
« Reply #10 on: Friday 14 September 07 09:08 BST (UK) »

1851 Census Sulgrave

H.O.107/1735 Pg 4  Folio   Sch 16

William MOBLEY Head Mar 54 Ag Labourer Sulgrave   
Sarah Daur U 29 Lacemaker Sulgrave   
Ann 27 Daur U Dressmaker Sulgrave   
Price E Grandson 3 Scholar Sulgrave

Pg 16 Folio  Sch 67
Nathaniel MOBLEY Head Mar 30 Ag Labr Sulgrave
Catharine 30 Wife Mar Syresham
John Son U 11 Ag Labr Sulgrave
Stephen Son U Ag Labr 8 Sulgrave
William Son U 6 Scholar Sulgrave
Charles Son U 4 Scholar Sulgrave
Sarah Son 1 Sulgrave
John Father Widr 60 Tailor Master Sulgrave

Pg 27 Folio  Sch 128
Thomas MOBLEY Head Mar 44 Ag Labr Sulgrave
Susanna Wife Mar 34 Coventry WARKS

Pg 28 Folio Sch 128
Ann Daur U 14 Sulgrave
George Son 6 Sulgrave
Martha Daur 3 Sulgrave
Betsey Daur 10m Sulgrave
James Uncle Widr 78 Pauper Al Labr Sulgrave

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Re: mobleys of sulgrave 1807-1841
« Reply #11 on: Friday 14 September 07 12:23 BST (UK) »

thanks once again eyesee,seahall
will pass all this on and the person who asked me about it in the first place can decide what to do next.
i did tell him about this site so hopefully he will join.
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Re: mobleys of sulgrave 1807-1841
« Reply #12 on: Friday 14 September 07 21:45 BST (UK) »

Hi Mick

Hope the new information in the P.M. will help your friend also.

It was most kind of you to ask on his be-half.  Smiley

Any one asking for help is most welcome here on Rootschat.

Look forward to him posting.

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Many Burton Latimer names Nths Many Isham names Nths Many Orlingbury names Nths
Many Raunds names Nths Sibley Nths, Sibley Beds
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Re: mobleys of sulgrave 1807-1841
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 18 September 07 21:25 BST (UK) »

Hi,
I asked the original question about any link between Thomas and Nathaniel
Mobley.Thank you for your help in this.It seems clear that Nathaniels Grand-father ,James Mobley ,born 8/8/1773,had a brother,name unknown, his son was Thomas Mobley born 1807.In the 1851 census Thomas has his uncle James living with him aged 78,just right.My connection with the Mobleys is Sarah, Nathaniels youngest daughter.born 1849 in Sulgrave.In the mid 1850s
Nathaniel and family moved to Wednesbury Staff,in the black country.He worked in a iron foundry a young worker there was called John Lucas.He married Sarah in  1863,and so the story carrys on.Thank you all for your help and if you find any more info let me know,
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