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« on: Thursday 25 May 06 22:16 BST (UK) »

here are some of the links I've found useful. Sorry if any have already been posted here-I thought it might be helpful to have them listed together

http://www.bbc.co.uk/kent/romany_roots/
http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/history/communities/gypsy-traveller.html
http://www.gypsy-traveller.org/contacts.htm
http://www.gypsy-traveller.org/history/
http://sca.lib.liv.ac.uk/collections/gypsy/intro.htm
http://www.shef.ac.uk/nfa/
http://www.journeyfolki.org.uk/
http://thegalloper.com/  see new link below
http://www.btinternet.com/~radical/thefolkmag/gypsies.htm
http://website.lineone.net/~rtfhs/links.html

http://romany.rootschat.net/
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Re: useful links
« Reply #1 on: Monday 29 May 06 01:18 BST (UK) »

Thanks Monique for the links, especially the last one, which lists loads of baptisms for my Pannell clan, including my great-grandmother, Jane Pannell......   Smiley

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Chatfield: Kent
Crone: Kent/Sussex/Surrey/Ireland
Lyden: Ireland
Pannell, Newland, Proudley (travellers): Sussex/Surrey
Dobson, Hollins: Staffs/Cheshire/Warwicks
Boys: Sussex/London
Payne: Suffolk/London
Hasting(s): Sussex
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« Reply #2 on: Monday 29 May 06 19:26 BST (UK) »

Thanks Clara-great to know it was helpful
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Re: useful links
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 06 June 06 18:43 BST (UK) »

A link with a scottish background to some of the families (mainly Faa and Baillie)

http://www.scottishgypsies.co.uk/
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« Reply #4 on: Sunday 25 June 06 20:27 BST (UK) »



This isn't a link but thought maybe you'd like to see this !! Smiley Smiley

Gypsies

In the 1920's gypsies were a common and colourful sight on the roads around Liverpool, with their horse-drawn caravans. The women made clothes pegs and baskets selling them them from door to door. The men did odd jobs and mended pots and pans.

http://www.merseygateway.org/pastliverpool/galleries/housing/gallery/different/images/large/s21.jpg

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« Reply #5 on: Monday 26 June 06 12:20 BST (UK) »

Found this site, which includes a Travellers Remember section:

http://www.travellerstimes.org.uk/

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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN
HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD
GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS
WIL: WEBB, SALTER
RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS
GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY
MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD
SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON
IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY, BOYLE (DUNDALK)
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Re: useful links
« Reply #6 on: Monday 26 June 06 19:44 BST (UK) »

Great links, Annie and Arranroots  Grin

Love the videos from the travellerstimes site, esp the hop-picking one.  Really got me thinking again about my traveller ancestors, in terms of how things were for travellers in the 19th century - how they moved about and what they lived in. 

I know that my Pannells and Newlands/Proudleys were hawkers from census info (also listed in other documents as pegmakers and basketmakers), and also that my Pannell g-g-grandfather was a seasonal hop-picker.  I know that hawkers generally had horses as transport (rather than pedlars who supposedly were on foot), but I'm still interested to know how these forebears moved about - did they have a horse and cart? caravan? tent? 

I know from some census and birth cert info that my g-g-grandfather Pannell and his family did live in houses from time to time - certainly by 1881, they were I think in almshouses, then after that in a house? in Horsham.

I also wonder about hop-picking in the mid to latter half of the 19th century - was there accommodation available in the hopfields of Kent, or did hop-pickers have to bring their tents, caravans, etc? 

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Davies, Hill: Middlesex/Surrey
Chatfield: Kent
Crone: Kent/Sussex/Surrey/Ireland
Lyden: Ireland
Pannell, Newland, Proudley (travellers): Sussex/Surrey
Dobson, Hollins: Staffs/Cheshire/Warwicks
Boys: Sussex/London
Payne: Suffolk/London
Hasting(s): Sussex
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Re: useful links
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 10 August 06 09:34 BST (UK) »


I also wonder about hop-picking in the mid to latter half of the 19th century - was there accommodation available in the hopfields of Kent, or did hop-pickers have to bring their tents, caravans, etc? 

Clara


there is some useful background here
http://www.bbc.co.uk/kent/voices/living.shtml
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Re: useful links
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 11 November 06 13:27 GMT (UK) »

another Kent link

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gypsy/gypsy.htm
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Re: useful links
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 22 March 07 07:19 GMT (UK) »

If you have Loveridge Connections this site could prove very useful:

http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=towcester&id=I8147

A large family tree of the Towcester Loveridges and their married relations has been deposited there.

Whilst not useful as a searchable resource, this page threw up some interesting stuff: theres a fabulous painting of the Shaw Family of Cambridge, and an image of the baptism of Selah, daughter of Edmund (No Name) Heron and wife Rose (Lovell).

http://www.cambridgeshire.gov.uk/leisure/archives/online/breakingthebarriers/barriers8.htm

This ones my own (without wishing to blow my own trumpet!) - just a load of Censuses, photos, etc that Ive extracted along the way whilst trying to piece together various romany families. It centres on Grays Smiths Herons, Boswells and Bosses, but other names are there, especially when camped with one of the above named families. Its not perfect of course, but it might help some folkis.

http://www.geocities.com/seraphim_angel_2002/Gypsyindex.html

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« Reply #10 on: Saturday 19 May 07 15:49 BST (UK) »

Just came across this
http://users.nwon.com/pauline/Travellers.html
hope it's useful to someone.

Erin  Smiley
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« Reply #11 on: Sunday 20 May 07 07:55 BST (UK) »

http://www.romanygenes.webeden.co.uk/

Mostly Dorset, Hampshire and the West Country but extending into Surrey etc. - 25 years of research!
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Re: useful links
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 21 August 07 10:44 BST (UK) »

Dont know if you folks know a great website lots of info and census records and baptisms and general info and loads of old pictures and history from the old romany books etc its .
http://www.romanygenes.webeden.co.ukSiteowner has been researching for over 25 years! well worth a look even has transported folki.
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« Reply #13 on: Friday 09 November 07 02:17 GMT (UK) »

hi just to let you know the galloper no longer exsists

it has been transfered to this link below


http://www.fairground-heritage.org.uk/
thank you lorraine
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« Reply #14 on: Thursday 07 February 08 00:46 GMT (UK) »

Romani found in American census records
http://lockeroots.home.comcast.net/~lockeroots/GypsyCensusRecords.html
 This is an ongoing project, so watch for updates.

Romani DNA project which is open to all Romani regardless where they now live.
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Romnchel/

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