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Topic: MI's North Newbald? - Completed thanks to JillRuss (Read 220 times)
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julianlivsey
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Hello
I am new to rootschat so apologies if it is bad form to post on old topics...
Jill, I am stuck on this same George and Sarah that you mention above.
Sounds like you have more information than me, is there any way you can help me?
Many thanks
Julian
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julianlivsey
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No, I have backed into him (so to speak).
I have his wife as Sarah Johnson, married 1855 in Beverley.
It is their son John b.1869 in Newbald who I followed back to this pair. On the census they list their place of birth as Newbald and North Newbald. Yet I also found Aldbrough and Cottingham as possible places of birth. All very confusing. I would love to hear what you were saying about them having a tough time of it.
Many thanks
Julian
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Gillywilly
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Hi Julian,
If he is the George Butler in my tree he would have been born at Newland, Cottingham which is what he had given for the 1841-1871 Census then on the 1881 & 1891 Census had Newbald as his place of birth. I often wonder if they get confused about place of birth with where they live!! North Newbald is often called just Newbald. You've got me with the Aldborough one, not seen this one! Where did you see this?
I have their son, John, baptised 15 December 1867, son of George & Sarah Butler, labourer taken from the Newbald PR's
I have a copy marriage certificate:
Marriage Certificate for George Butler (23) gave William Butler, labourer as his father & Joseph & Ann Johnson were the witnesses. He was living at North Newbald & a servant, his wife Sarah Johnson (21) was also a servant living at North Newbald
Is this any help? If he is the correct John Butler, I have his siblings baptisms as well.
Gill
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Pickering - Newland, Cottingham (E.Yorks)
Cape - Bridlington, Hull
May - Lincs & E.Yorks
Lamb, Leonard & Ingram - Holderness
Holmes - Knottingley/Gainsborough
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julianlivsey
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Hi Gill
We are definitely talking about the same people. I had Newland from the 1871 census but wasn't sure where that was. I see now it is near Cottingham. I cannot find them on any earlier census though, you say you have them 41,51,61?.
LDS have several George Butlers of about the right date in Yorkshire, but the best match seemed to be "12 MAR 1831 Aldbrough Near Hull". However the parents are listed as George and Maria, so going by your marriage certificate, Aldbrough can be ruled out. Joseph and Ann Johnson would be good candidates for Sarah's parents perhaps?
1867 sounds reasonable for their son John. His age jumps about on the various census but it is definitely the same person. So we are definitely looking for a William Butler. Thanks for that, you have been a great help.
George's son John had a daughter called Gladys. I can just about remember sitting on her knee 
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