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Ebor337
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Hi,
Can anyone point me in the right direction?
Been having trouble tracing my mum's side of the family ...
My mum's dad was called Ronald (b 22.6.1926) and his father was called Albert (b c1898). I have Albert's and his wife's (Laura Hodgson's) marriage certificate (married 5.6.1920) and this is defintely them.
Trouble is, i cant get back any further on the Ward side.  On the wedding cert is says Albert's dad is Charles Ward (deceased) and a certain 'H Ward' is a witness.
How can I go back any further? There are a couple of 'possibilities' in the 1901 census (Albert should be on it??) that I have seen but i can't be 100%. This one (Class RG13 - Piece 4436 - Folio 88 - Page 28) fits in few ways (Charles as father, a brother H ward as a potential witness) but, the age of ALbert is 'wrong' by 4 years.
Any advice much appreciated. Many thanks.
Lee
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So far . . . . THURSTON: 'The Saints', Linstead Parva, Mendham, (All Suffolk), Tockwith MOODY: Gainsborough LAMBERT: Norwell, Notts | 1886+ Tockwith CUTTS: Rumburgh, Suffolk BLATCHFORD: Devon BULLOCK: Devon WARD: York HODGSON: York http://www.leethurston.tribalpages.com |
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Manchester Rambler
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What is Charles' occupation on the marriage cert? Does it match the possibility you found in 1901?
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ANT: Nesbit, Potts CHS: Gosling, Hinton, Johnson, Marsland, Sorton LAN: Barlow, Jackson, James, Potts, Sorton MAY: Caulfield, Griffin SAL/STS: Goodwin, Gregory SOM: Dowding, James, Jones Any census information included in this post is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Ebor337
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What is Charles' occupation on the marriage cert? Does it match the possibility you found in 1901?
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Hi Rambler,
Yes, both are given as 'Labourers', or something to that extent (at work now so can't fully check).
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So far . . . . THURSTON: 'The Saints', Linstead Parva, Mendham, (All Suffolk), Tockwith MOODY: Gainsborough LAMBERT: Norwell, Notts | 1886+ Tockwith CUTTS: Rumburgh, Suffolk BLATCHFORD: Devon BULLOCK: Devon WARD: York HODGSON: York http://www.leethurston.tribalpages.com |
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Valda
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Do you know when Albert Ward died? From the June quarter of 1969 on the GRO death registration index a date and place of birth are given (where known, if correct by those registering the death). Before that the age is given which helps cross check against the age given on the marriage but obviously after 1969 is easier to find a birth certificate.
What address is given for Albert on his marriage? Is it close to that of the family in York on the 1901 census.
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Valda
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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If the only indication of Alberts age that you have is the age given on the marriage cert he could've lied. My great grandfather gave his age as 21 but was only 19. Just a thought.
FreeBMD doesn't have an Albert Ward registered in York in 1898 but there are two in 1894 and two in 1895.
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Watson, Challoner, Snowball, Pyburn, Heppell, Ferry, Crosby, Holmes, Clennett, Waller, Mansell Co.Durham/Northumberland
Stockton, Watson N. Yorks
Brown & Anstey, Devon
Challoner & Mansell, Shropshire
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Ebor337
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Do you know when Albert Ward died?
What address is given for Albert on his marriage? Is it close to that of the family in York on the 1901 census.
I'm afraid I don't know when he died, unfortunately. The address is on the marriage cert is in York, but a distance from the family home.
If the only indication of Alberts age that you have is the age given on the marriage cert he could've lied. My great grandfather gave his age as 21 but was only 19. Just a thought.
FreeBMD doesn't have an Albert Ward registered in York in 1898 but there are two in 1894 and two in 1895.
I am thinking the same - but why would he have lied? His wifes age was 21 so if the 1894 Albert is him, then he would only be 5 years older - nothing to be ashamed about??
I ordered the birth cert yesterday - I'm hoping that will shed more light on matters (although I'm not sure how at the minute). I'm losing it  I didnt order this cert - how can I when i dont know when he was born?!!?! I was getting mixed up with another branch. 
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So far . . . . THURSTON: 'The Saints', Linstead Parva, Mendham, (All Suffolk), Tockwith MOODY: Gainsborough LAMBERT: Norwell, Notts | 1886+ Tockwith CUTTS: Rumburgh, Suffolk BLATCHFORD: Devon BULLOCK: Devon WARD: York HODGSON: York http://www.leethurston.tribalpages.com |
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Might anyone else in your family be able to tell you anything else about Albert e.g. when and where he died......approximately, before his wife Laura, after his wife, before the Second World War, after....... or anything else about him e.g. siblings?
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Valda
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Ebor337
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Hi Valda,
My mum (who's side it is) knows nothing of her family. She doesn't think he was alive when she was born (1957) but other than that, she's in the dark. 
Thank you.
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So far . . . . THURSTON: 'The Saints', Linstead Parva, Mendham, (All Suffolk), Tockwith MOODY: Gainsborough LAMBERT: Norwell, Notts | 1886+ Tockwith CUTTS: Rumburgh, Suffolk BLATCHFORD: Devon BULLOCK: Devon WARD: York HODGSON: York http://www.leethurston.tribalpages.com |
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Ebor337
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but why would he have lied? Because you were not allowed to marry under 21years of age,without Parents consent.That was still the law in the 1960's 
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So far . . . . THURSTON: 'The Saints', Linstead Parva, Mendham, (All Suffolk), Tockwith MOODY: Gainsborough LAMBERT: Norwell, Notts | 1886+ Tockwith CUTTS: Rumburgh, Suffolk BLATCHFORD: Devon BULLOCK: Devon WARD: York HODGSON: York http://www.leethurston.tribalpages.com |
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