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Simmonette WHEELER
« on: Saturday 15 September 07 11:13 BST (UK) »

Can anyone find Simonette WHEELER after 1861 census. She was born Buckland in 1838, parents Thomas and Caroline. Have her in 41, 51 and 61 with her parents.

She must be around somewhere as she did not die until 1929.

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Re: Simmonette WHEELER
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 16 September 07 15:12 BST (UK) »

Hi,

Do you have any other info, such as a marriage that might help find her?

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Re: Simmonette WHEELER
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 16 September 07 15:24 BST (UK) »

Found this baptism in Buckland, 20/9/1838

Wheeler, Simonette, d of Thomas & Caroline

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Re: Simmonette WHEELER
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 16 September 07 21:19 BST (UK) »

Thanks Paula

She died unmarried in 1929 aged 91.

Can't find her anywhere at the moment. Her name though should stand out.

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CLARKE, Sussex, Cambridge and Shropshire
FAULCONER, MANNINGTON, RICHARDSON, TICEHURST, BROOK, ELPHICK, All Sussex
UDY, CLEMENCE/CLEMENTS, Cornwall
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FERNANDES, London
RUSH, CARTER, GIBSON, REMINGTON, London and Surrey
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Re: Simmonette WHEELER
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 16 September 07 21:30 BST (UK) »



Hi Ian,

I couldn't help but notice that in 1861 she was a Governess .. .. I'm wondering whether she might have travelled abroad in later years?

Kind regards,

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Re: Simmonette WHEELER
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 16 September 07 22:22 BST (UK) »

I had wondered that myself.

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UDY, CLEMENCE/CLEMENTS, Cornwall
BROOKING, Devon
FERNANDES, London
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Re: Simmonette WHEELER
« Reply #6 on: Friday 21 September 07 12:45 BST (UK) »

I've found this entry on Ancestry.

Emmonet Whalse (sounds like a classic transcription error to me!) listed in the 1871 census for Finsbury (London). 
She's a 30 year old visitor, unmarried, born Buckland Berkshire.

What do you think?

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Re: Simmonette WHEELER
« Reply #7 on: Friday 21 September 07 13:28 BST (UK) »

Now here's a thought .......

Do you think that Simonette might also have been known as Esther?  If you say 'Simonette' slowly (pronouncing it 'Simonetter'), then the last two syllables sound like 'Esther', (sort of!).

I can find reference to an Esther Wheeler born Buckland 1841 in the later censuses. (I know it's not quite the exact birth year).

It has already been confirmed that there is a baptism record for Simonette.  But is there a baptism for an Esther Wheeler in Buckland too?  If there are both, then you can totally discount this idea!

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Re: Simmonette WHEELER
« Reply #8 on: Friday 21 September 07 17:47 BST (UK) »

I've had a look at the "Emmonet Whalse" in 1871.   I think it says Wheeler as the tail of a "Y" from the line above cuts through the surname.   

That said, it could just be a case of wanting it to be.  Huh

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Re: Simmonette WHEELER
« Reply #9 on: Friday 21 September 07 18:32 BST (UK) »




I wonder if this would help Harry?



I'm not too sure about it saying Wheeler - but it does make you wonder because this person doesn't appear anywhere else on any other census?



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Re: Simmonette WHEELER
« Reply #10 on: Friday 21 September 07 22:50 BST (UK) »

Thanks guys.

The Esther in 1881 is a widow. Simonette never married.

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Re: Simmonette WHEELER
« Reply #11 on: Friday 21 September 07 23:49 BST (UK) »

I know that I'm probably flogging a dead horse here but have just had a very quick check and can't easily find an Esther Wheeler, born about 1840, Buckland in either 1871 or 1861.  If her daughter is 16 in 1881 then she might be expected to have been married in these years.  (She could, of course, have been married twice and so had a different surname in either year.)

It's not unusual for unmarried women with children to describe their status as 'widow' to save face.

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Re: Simmonette WHEELER
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 22 September 07 14:08 BST (UK) »

I have tried everything for 1881, but no joy.

But I did find another Simmonette in Buckland and wondered if she was linked to yours at all
RG11 1279 87 21
Simmonette Goodman age 16 living with grandparents
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