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jaxblk
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Hi Chris
I wondered if you could look for the name PAYNE in East Grinstead for me? If there are too many then I am especially keen to find information about Henry and Dinah/Diana PAYNE.
Many thanks for your help - it is much appreciated.
Best wishes
Jackie
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Hi there jaxblk
Sorry for the delay in answering your query, but we have been away for a few days in South Wales looking for the wifes paternal ancestors and meeting descendants of same
1841 Census for East Grinstead, Folio 1 93; Rocks.
PAYNE Henry, 45, Shoemaker, born in Sussex
Dinah, 50, born Sussex
Richard, 14, Sussex
Joseph, 12, Sussex
Charles, 9, Sussex
Dont forget their ages were rounded down to the nearest 5 except children.
Incidentally there are some 30 odd families named Payne in East Grinstead in 1841, and in particular Church lane which had 6 houses, four of which were occupied by Paynes.
Chris in 1066Land
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Hi Chris
many thanks for that information, I appreciate your help. I knew there were masses of PAYNEs in East Grinstead. Other researchers have suggested that there are 2 main families, who do not appear to be connected to each other. My branch are mainly shoemakers.
Best wishes
Jackie
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Chris in 1066Land
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Hi Jackie
These are all the PAYNE Shoemakers from the 1841 census transcription of East Grinstead.
1841 Census for East Grinstead
East Grinstead Town
PAYNE James, 40, Shoemaker, born Sussex
Sarah, 30, born Sussex
Church Lane, East Grinstead
PAYNE Richard, 35, Shoemaker, Sussex
Mary, 35, Sussex
George, 7, Sussex
PAYNE Rob, 80, Ind, Sussex
Mary, 75, Sussex
WELFARE Richard, 30, Soemaker, Sussex
PAYNE John, 45, Shoemaker, Sussex
Susana, 45, Not born in Sussex
John, 20, Not born in Sussex
William, 18, born in Sussex
Mary, 16, Dress Maker, Sussex
Richard, 14, Tailors Appr, Sussex
James, 11, Sussex
George, 10, Sussex
Philladelphia, 7, Sussex
Frederick, 4, Sussex
Robert, 20, Sussex
Ship Lane, East Grinstead
PAYNE William, Shoemaker, born in Sussex
Mary, 40, Sussex
William, 24, Shoemaker, Sussex
Henry, 22, Shoemaker, Sussex
Robert, 19, Shoemaker, Sussex
James, 17, Sussex
John, 13, Sussex
Jane, 10, Sussex
Edward, 8, Sussex
George, 5, Sussex
Frederick, 3, Sussex
Walter, 1, Sussex
Rocks, East Grinstead
PAYNE, Henry, 20, Shoemaker, Sussex
George, 20, Shoemaker, Sussex
Living with the Smith Family, Shoemakers.
It would appear that all the other Paynes listed are Ag Labs!
I do have a copy of the 1851 for East Grinstead if you want any further info.
Chris in 1066Land
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Hi Chris
You are a star!
If you wouldn't mind looking the PAYNE shoemakers up on the 1851 I would be grateful - but it is not urgent, so take your time.
Best wishes
Jackie
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Hi Jackie
It is with acheing fingers that i present for you the first part of the 1851 PAYNE'S Shoemakers in East Grinstead.
HO107/ 1641/ Folio 210/ Page 26 High Street, East Grinstead
PAYNE, Henry, Head, Marr, 55, Cordwainer, East Grinstead
Diana, Wife, Marr, 58, Hartfield, Sussex
Jane, Dau, Unm, 27, East Grinstead
Joseph, Son, Unm, 21, Cordwainer, East Grinstead
Charles, Son, Unm, 19, Cordwainer, born East Grinstead
Eva, Grd Daughter, Unm, 1month, born East Grinstead
HO107/ 1641/ Folio 247/ Page 61 East Grinstead
PAYNE George, Head, Marr, 31, Shoemaker, born Southwark, Surrey
Eliza, Wife, Marr, 27, Shoebinder, East Grinstead.
George S, Son, Unm, 1, East Grinstead
HO107/ 1641/ Folio 230/ Page 185 London Road, East Grinstead
PAYNE William, Head, Marr, 56, Shoemaker employing 4, East Grinstead
Mary, Wife, Marr, 45, Shoemakers wife, East Grinstead
John, Son, Unm, 22, Boot Maker, East Grinstead
Jane, Dau, Unm, 20, Boot Maker, East Grinstead
George, Son, Unm, 15, Appr to Shoemaker, East Grinstead
Frederick, Son, Unm, 13, Appr to Shoemaker, East Grinstead
Walter, Son, Unm, 10, Scholar, East Grinstead
Ellen Maria, Dau, Unm, 5, Scholar, East Grinstead
HO107/ 1641/ Folio 224/ Page 142 Middle Row, East Grinstead
PAYNE, John, Head, Marr, 33, Master Shoemaker Employing 1, born Newington, Surrey
Mary, Wife, Marr, 36, Shoemakers wife, Bletchley, Surrey
Alfred, Son, Unm, 8, Scholar, East Grinstead
Mary Ann, Dau, Unm, 4, East Grinstead
Eleanor S, Dau, Unm, 2, Eat Grinstead
Thomas, Son, Unm, 10months, East Grinstead
I will copy out the rest after supper
Chris in 1066Land
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Hi Jackie
Here are the rest of them (thank goodness)
HO107/ 1641/ Folio 225/ Page 143 Middle Row, East Grinstead
PAYNE William, Head, Marr, 27, Cordwainer, East Grinstead
Sarah Ann, Wife, Marr, 28, Cordwainers Wife, Bromley, Kent
HO107/ 1641/ Folio 211/ Page 36 Church Street, East Grinstead
PAYNE John, Head, Marr, 58, Boot/Shoe Maker employing 4, born East Grinstead
Susanah, Wife, Marr, 55, Boot / Shoemakers wife, Lingfield, Surrey.
Robert, Son, Unm, 32, Shoemaker, East Grinstead
George, Son, Unm, 18, Employed at Home, East Grinstead
Philadelphia, Dau, Unm, 16, Employed at Home, East Grinstead
Frederick F, Son, Unm, 14, Employed at Home, East Grinstead
HO107/ 1641/ Folio 211/ Page 34 Church Street, East Grinstead
PAYNE Richard, Head, Marr, 49, Bootmakr employing 3+, East Grinstead
Mary, Wife, Marr, 48, Bootmakers wife, East Grinstead
Emily, Dau, Unm, 8, Scholar at Home, East Grinstead
HO107/ 1641/ Folio 232/ Page 203 Rock Gardens, East Grinstead
PAYNE Robert, Ldg, Unm, 29, Bootmaker, East Grinstead
Lodging with the Wood Family.
Hope you can fit them all into your tree
Chris in 1066Land
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hi, i am a direct descendent of the sussex [east grinstead, worth] paynes and was wondering whether you were related too. i have loads of info on the family tree.which payne are you connected to.
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My g-grandmother was Emma Payne from East Grinstead, her father was Thomas Payne b1821 Horne, and I think his father was Thomas Payne b1797 West Hoathley. I think my line comes from Horne, Worth and West Hoathley before East Grinstead. The Paynes from East Grinstead are a minefield, there seesm to be several unrelated families there. I have odds and sods of E-G Payne notes if anyone interested.
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