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krisesjoint
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LOL geographically challenged also  cant help with that part ...Re the 91 census not much point giving people who dont exist yet  Can u tell me more about Thomas? do u have him in 1881 with his family?...Sorry no show of finding him without more info ...Cant c anyone apparently listing as born in any of the places u mention....Perhaps I could find him with more info on the family.... Kris 
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Hi Jennifer  ...Have tried everything I can think of....get nowhere with Billinghurst or Alford but now Ockley I do come up with a family ...no Oakhurst Farm or Oakhurst anything anywhere that I can c but in I entry in 1901 I did c mention of a town Oakwood....LOL ....This family I am referring to does have a son Thomas but he is 10 years younger than u r suggesting R U sure about Thomas's age? If u r right then he was around 40 having his eldest child which of course there is nothing wrong with except that I cant find him...LOL...If u r wrong then I may have something 4 u....I tried yesterday to come up with something 4 u if he is about 16 then there r heaps of possibles in Surrey and Sussex but cannot find any that seem to have anything to do with these 3 parishes u have mentioned....assuming that since u have his wifes name etc u prob have certs confirming his age so I wont transcribe anything till I here back from u....no point if u r confident of his age .....Look forward to hearing from u. Do u have the marriage cert with his fathers name by any chance?  Kris
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Hi Jennifer and Kris,
I, too did some more hunting. I hate to give up on something like this. I think I have found the farm.
There is a farm, called Oakhurst, located on Fisher Lane,
Chiddingfold, which is quite near Billingshurst and Alfold.
In the 1869 Kelly's Directory, it is listed under Billingshurst, but the farmer is a Francis Botting. I did a bit of trawling around in the 1881 Census and found several Cooper families, living in Fisher Lane, near the farm. I think they may be all related as they are all working in the same trade, making walking sticks and dealing in wood. Unfortunately there is no Thomas among them, but perhaps his parents had moved away
by then. I checked FreeBMD and found only one Thomas Arthur Cooper, born June Q, 1877, Lambeth
1d 436. I tried the 1891 Census, but like Kris, found far too many Coopers and not knowing the exact location,
it looked impossible. Perhaps I'll give it another try.
Anyway, thought I should let you know about the farm
and the Coopers living close to it. Some of these Coopers owned a stick factory, employing 50 men. Does this ring any bells for you, Jennifer? These were the only Coopers that I could find anywhere near Oakhurst Farm, except for an unmarried vicar.
Will try to find out more.
Cheers,
Carmela
Could not leave it alone. Went back and now have found
a Thomas Cooper, born 1881-82, Chiddingfold. Could this be your man? If you think this could be the one, I can send details. If you send me your e-mail address in a private message, I will send info directly to you.
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You Brilliant Girl U Carmela ...Fancy finding the farm ...amazing big pat on the back for that one  .....I have been trawling 1891 Chiddingfold now I know where to look...No Oakhurst Farm though lots of names ending in Hurst...No Fisher Lane Either but 2 entries for the Stick Factory...Both Coombe Lane and at 1 is a Thomas age 9 Will transcribe it!! Kris 
PS I trawled 71 also and could not find Oakhurst Farm there either
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RG12/571 ED 14 Folio 178 Page 17
Stick Factory
Coombe Lane
Chillingfold Surrey
COOPER Thomas Head 42 Widow b Chillingfold Walking Stick Manufacturer
COOPER Henry Son 16 Unm b Chillingfold Stick Maker
COOPER Lilly Dau 14 b Chillingfold Scholar
COOPER Ernest Son 12 b Chillingfold Scholar
COOPER Thomas Son 9 b Chillingfold Scholar
COOPER Archibald Son 6 b Chillingfold Scholar
BEAUCHAMP Sarah Servant Widow 44 b Wisborough Green Surrey Housekeeper
and next door
COOPER John Samuel Head 35 Mar b Chillingfold Walking Stick Manufacturer
COOPER Alice Helen Wife 30 Mar b Worth Sussex
COOPER John Son 6 b Chillingfold
COOPER Alice Ruth Dau 4 b Chillingfold
COOPER Hilda Florence Dau 2 b Chillingfold
COOPER Dapne Eliz Dau 7 Months b Chillingfold
DURRANT Alice Servant 15 Unm b Kirdford Sussex General Servant Domestic
Cheers Kris
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Carmela
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Jennifer
Sorry there was no obvious match for your Thomas.
Re: your question about Hambledon; I presume you refer to a modern postal address. All I can tell you is that at the time of the 1901 Census, the Rural District in which Chiddingfold fell, was Hambledon. I could not find the farm in census records, but maps showed that
it was and still is somewhere near the places you mentioned and the place where the Coopers that Kris
found in 1891 Census were living. I have an idea that the farm may have been in a neighbouring District as far as the Census was concerned. I searched only the one district and not all of that.
I found the area in which the farm was located by using a combination of maps and Kelly's Directory.
I don't doubt that it is possible that your Coopers did buy or rent that farm at some time, but I think it was possibly after 1901.
A Google search turned up an Oakhurst Farm, now the address of a car dealer, same area . There is also an Oakhurst Cottage, now owned by the National Trust.
One last thought is that there could be more than one Oakhurst Farm. I think this is very unlikely in a small area on the Surrey, West Sussex border.
The birth and marriage cert route looks like the only way to go. I'll let you know, if any more ideas come to me.
btw: don't be too influenced by photos, people often look older or younger than their age. I always look about 10 years older!
Good Luck,
Carmela
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when it comes to the UK and I cannot seem to get all places on the one map!
.... not for lack of trying I can tell you