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buckaroo
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Couldn't believe my eyes...!!
« on: Thursday 20 September 07 16:17 UTC (UK) »
...when I saw this, from the 1851 census, Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Ann Ellis (fruitful wife) 39yrs, Berkshire, Reading St Mary

what do you think the story behind this might have been?

can anyone read what's written verticaly across the image?
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Re: Couldn't believe my eyes...!!
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 20 September 07 16:30 UTC (UK) »

Under Relation to Head of Family, and written vertically, it says:
"Olive branches round the Table"

Under the Condition column also written vertically:
I believe any Daughters are Girls & presume any Sons are Boys.

Cheesy
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Re: Couldn't believe my eyes...!!
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 20 September 07 16:30 UTC (UK) »
Here it is ... someone with better glasses than mine have a go !

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Re: Couldn't believe my eyes...!!
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 20 September 07 16:33 UTC (UK) »
Hehe!!

I think it says "Olive branches around the table" under Relation to Head of Family

"I believe my daughters are girls and presume my sons are boys" - under condition

Ann (snr) is the Household and maternal carer
Mary and Ann appear to be parents housemaids
Henry - much work and little play
John - helps brother and plays with the others
Chs - goes to school whistling as he goes
Thos - stays at home plays with the baby
Edwn - nursed tenderly  ......aaah

Can't read the scored through entry for Anns condition....

Great to see a sense of humour on a census return Grin Grin Grin

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Re: Couldn't believe my eyes...!!
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 20 September 07 16:42 UTC (UK) »

Quote from: Elleray Girl on Thursday 20 September 07 16:33 UTC (UK)

Can't read the scored through entry for Anns condition....



1851  HO107/1692/219/19

Does it say (with the line above) Married safe enough?

Is the head of the family's occupation Plebeian Gardener & Chartist?

How extraordinary!  Cheesy
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Re: Couldn't believe my eyes...!!
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 20 September 07 16:45 UTC (UK) »
I think Henry's entry  reads "much work and little pay".  My guess is that Ann (snr) filled the form in herself.

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Re: Couldn't believe my eyes...!!
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 20 September 07 17:14 UTC (UK) »
The final column is interesting too  Cheesy

Can hear the church bells Talks to herself and Huh when daylight ??

can anyone decipher it some more?

Barbara
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Re: Couldn't believe my eyes...!!
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 20 September 07 17:16 UTC (UK) »
Lol think Buckaroo gets the prize for the most imaginative census entry probably most of us have seen

Is it the same handwriting on the rest of the census Buckaroo?

Willow x
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Re: Couldn't believe my eyes...!!
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 20 September 07 17:33 UTC (UK) »
The writing's the same. Can't find anything similar yet!

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Re: Couldn't believe my eyes...!!
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 20 September 07 17:38 UTC (UK) »
This and the Alfred Gould condensed milk one must be worthy of comment somewhere other than just on RC !! 

(Which I've kept but can't at the moment find ... files in a right muddle !)
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Re: Couldn't believe my eyes...!!
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 20 September 07 17:38 UTC (UK) »

Quote from: Barbara F on Thursday 20 September 07 17:14 UTC (UK)

Can hear the church bells Talks to herself and Huh when daylight ??


LOL! I didn't see the last column.  I think it's:

    Talks to herself and wears specs when daylight grows dim.

 Cheesy

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Re: Couldn't believe my eyes...!!
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 20 September 07 17:42 UTC (UK) »
Hey........

That sounds like me !

Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Re: Couldn't believe my eyes...!!
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 20 September 07 17:44 UTC (UK) »
My guess is that the poor enumerator got fed up with taking down the boring (but useful to us!) details, and when one lively family answered his questions with humour, took down what they said literally.

Thank goodness he did!

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Re: Couldn't believe my eyes...!!
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 20 September 07 17:45 UTC (UK) »
Wears specs when 'day dims'

I think you should ask the GRO for a copy of this page Buckeroo and frame it!

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Re: Couldn't believe my eyes...!!
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 20 September 07 18:42 UTC (UK) »
I thought it might say "Specs" but I think there is another word between daylight and dims.
I had a look for the family in 1861.  Ann - the Fruitful Wife - is with her children and described as Married.  However there is no sign of her husband!
This is the best census entry I have seen although I did like the one I found in Kent in 1881 where the birthplace was "God knows where"

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