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coonwarra
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Abandoned Shanks children from Whithorn
« on: Thursday 20 September 07 17:38 UTC (UK) »

John Shanks b1842 and Jane Muir b1848 at Whithorn were married in 1866 at Whithorn.

they had the following children, all born at Whithorn:

Agnes 1867
Sarah 1868
Andrew Muir 1871
Thomas 1871
Elizabeth Muir 1873
Janet Galloway 1878
John or Arthur Archibald 1879

It appears that John abandoned his family and emigrated to Australia where he re-married in 1895, claiming to be a widower.  This is strange as I believe that Jane Muir may have lived until 1935!!!!!

I am trying to find out more about what happened to the children in this family and would be grateful for any assistance with this.  If anyone has access to the census data for 1881, 1891 and 1901 I would be interested to see the details.

Several of John's siblings moved to the Govan, Lanarkshire area so I'm not sure whether John's family stayed in the Whithorn area or if they too moved to Lanarkshire.

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Ireland: Arlour, Arlow, Hammond, Hannah, Shanks, Templeton

Scotland: Allan, Black, Carlyle, Corkingdale, Fleeting, Grant, Hammond, Hannah, Kirkwood, Lothian, McFarlane, Main, Neilson, Shanks, Sneddon, Stirling, Wood

Sussex/Hampshire/Surrey/London/Kent: Beagley, Douch, Earl, King, Ladyman, Ley, Pattenden, Peskett, Standen, Stonestreet, Windiate
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Re: Abandoned Shanks children from Whithorn
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 20 September 07 17:59 UTC (UK) »

Census 1881

Jane Shanks age 32 -head- living in Whithorn, Main Street

Grocer's Assistant

Arthur A Shanks 1

Janet G Shnaks 3

Sarah Shanks 12
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Re: Abandoned Shanks children from Whithorn
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 20 September 07 18:03 UTC (UK) »

Census 1891

Jane Shanks - age 42 - Mother-In-Law

Living in Glasgow St George Kelvin - 119 New City Road

Alexander MacBoyde - 1
Jane M MacBoyde - 1 mo
Sarah MacBoyde - 22
William MacBoyde - 28 Manager Spirit Salesman
Arthur A Shanks - 11
Janet B Shanks - 13
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Re: Abandoned Shanks children from Whithorn
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 20 September 07 18:09 UTC (UK) »

Census 1901

Jane Shanks - age 52 - Mother-In -Law Living on own means

In Whithorn - George Street # 121

Archibald J S Morrison - 2
Elizabeth Logan Morrison - 8 mos
Elizabeth M Morrison - 27
Samuel D Morrison - 30 - Grocer Shopkeeper
Samuel Dickerson Morrison - 3
Thomas Logan Morrison - 4
Arthur AA Shanks - 21 - Plumbers Apprentice

Hope this helps:) If it isn't them let me know.





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Re: Abandoned Shanks children from Whithorn
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 20 September 07 18:19 UTC (UK) »

Would this be Agnes (age 14) and Elizabeth (age 7) in 1881.

They are with Archibald Muir - 66 and Agnes Muir - 66

Living in Whithorn 16 Isle Street

Archibald is a Master Grocer
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Re: Abandoned Shanks children from Whithorn
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 20 September 07 18:19 UTC (UK) »

Would this be Agnes (age 14) and Elizabeth (age 7) in 1881.

They are with Archibald Muir - 66 and Agnes Muir - 66

Living in Whithorn 16 Isle Street

Archibald is a Master Grocer
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Re: Abandoned Shanks children from Whithorn
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 20 September 07 18:21 UTC (UK) »

Sorry somehow that got posted twice...oooppsss

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Re: Abandoned Shanks children from Whithorn
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 20 September 07 18:30 UTC (UK) »

Census 1881

I found an Andrew Muir Shanks aged 10 - Adopted Son???

Living in Whithorn at Glenvallach Villa

With him are

Andrew Muir - 62
Janet Muir - 62
Georgina Galloway - Sister-in-law
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Re: Abandoned Shanks children from Whithorn
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 20 September 07 18:33 UTC (UK) »

Hi Mab

Thank you very much for all of this - it is all very useful to me.  Just a couple of queries:

Could the 1891 census be for the McBryde family?  I have a note that Sarah married a William McBryde not McBoyde.

I think you have found Agnes in 1881.  Her maternal grandparents were Archibald Muir and Agnes Scott.  Do you have the full list of people in that household?

Smiley

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Ireland: Arlour, Arlow, Hammond, Hannah, Shanks, Templeton

Scotland: Allan, Black, Carlyle, Corkingdale, Fleeting, Grant, Hammond, Hannah, Kirkwood, Lothian, McFarlane, Main, Neilson, Shanks, Sneddon, Stirling, Wood

Sussex/Hampshire/Surrey/London/Kent: Beagley, Douch, Earl, King, Ladyman, Ley, Pattenden, Peskett, Standen, Stonestreet, Windiate
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Re: Abandoned Shanks children from Whithorn
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 20 September 07 18:39 UTC (UK) »

It's transcribed as MacBoyde but I bet you it's McBryde. Let me see if I can find the family again.

Sorry in 1881 there is  just the two girls and the grandparents. I think I may have found Andrew in 1891

Andrew Muir Shanks age 20 - Bank Clerk -adopted son

Living at Glenvalloch (sp??) with

Georgina Galloway - 65
Andrew Muir - 70
Janet Muir - 74
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Re: Abandoned Shanks children from Whithorn
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 20 September 07 18:49 UTC (UK) »

Census 1901

I found a Sarah (32) and William McBryde (36) that could be them living in Glasgow barony 129 Bucclench St

He is still a manager Spirit Trader - I think it's them:)

Three children

Alexander McBryde - 11
Janes (?) F S McBryde - 8
Sarah McBryde - 10

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Re: Abandoned Shanks children from Whithorn
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 20 September 07 18:59 UTC (UK) »

Census 1901

Janet Gallowway Shanks - age 23 - relationship - Grand Niece

Whithorn at an address given as Glenvllagh - Huh??

With the following people:

Janet Muir - 87 - head
Susan Russell - 19 - servant
Andrew M Shanks - 30 - Grand Nephew - Insurance Agent
Janet Vera Shanks - 4 - Grt Grand Niece
Jeame Shanks - 7 - Grt Grand Niece
Nancy R Shanks - 30 - Grand Niece
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Re: Abandoned Shanks children from Whithorn
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 20 September 07 19:02 UTC (UK) »

Thomas and Andrew have the same birth year?

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Re: Abandoned Shanks children from Whithorn
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 20 September 07 19:34 UTC (UK) »

Hi there

Thank you for this info - it is all very interesting to me.

I don't now at this stage who Georgina Galloway,
Andrew Muir and Janet Muir are in 1891.  Presumably Andrew is the brother of Archibald Muir (father of Jane Muir b1848)?

Also, I don't know anything about the Grt Grand Nieces that you have found in 1901:

Janet Vera Shanks - 4 - Grt Grand Niece
Jeame Shanks - 7 - Grt Grand Niece
Nancy R Shanks - 30 - Grand Niece

Hopfully someone will know who these people are so that I can tie them into my tree.

Smiley


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Ireland: Arlour, Arlow, Hammond, Hannah, Shanks, Templeton

Scotland: Allan, Black, Carlyle, Corkingdale, Fleeting, Grant, Hammond, Hannah, Kirkwood, Lothian, McFarlane, Main, Neilson, Shanks, Sneddon, Stirling, Wood

Sussex/Hampshire/Surrey/London/Kent: Beagley, Douch, Earl, King, Ladyman, Ley, Pattenden, Peskett, Standen, Stonestreet, Windiate
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Re: Abandoned Shanks children from Whithorn
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 20 September 07 20:24 UTC (UK) »

I can't find Thomas, sorry. I don't see him in 1871 with his family Huh

Nancy R Shanks was born in Sorbie - so were the children

Just a real big stretch but I found the following.

I did a search on  Nancy R ...no last name...and I found a Nancy R Garrie aged 1 Born Sorbie living with in 1871:

James Garrie - Head age 43 Minister born Mongie (?) Perthshire
Jane Garrie - wife - age 30 born Sorbie
Margaret S garrie - age 3 - Born Sorbie

Living in Sorbie at the Free Church Manse - he is the Minister

Georgina Galloway is listed in 1891 as a sister-in-law born in Sorbie - Domestic housekeeper retired.

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