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deeiluka
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Abiam, if you decided to get the newspaper notices of the Hurrens, you never know, the names of the siblings and their partners may be mentioned in that, which might give a clue to Rose's husband. It may not of course....it might only contain given names.
I'll take a peek at your picture.....
......dee
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Abiam
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Hi Dee,
Clara didn't have any children, neither did Les and Rose had one adopted daughter. No one can say the Dobson's in Australia have helped over population ! Maybe it had something to do with having 10 siblings!!!
Glad you enjoyed seeing one of your 'customers',
regards, Abiam
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TUBB, Hungerford, Berks, EGERTON, Highworth, Wilts
WISE, South Australia, WISE, Fawley, Berks
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deeiluka
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I've checked what Passenger lists are available for you, Abiam....but unfortunatley around the time they came, many passengers were listed as Miss R. Dobson or Miss C. Dobson.....and when there are more than 1, that makes it impossible to know which would be them.
......dee
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tropicalj
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Hello there
So it would appear that Clara came to Oz first and then her brother Les came a bit later to South Australia after 1932 as well.
Now I wonder did the two sister come together?
Clara has her photo taken in 1921 in Victoria Did the photo have anthyning written on the back of it?
Then she married in 1923 in South Australia.
regard Jenn
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Abiam
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I had a look myself and discovered the impossibility of it all.
Another thought - my father was in the Merchant Navy (British) and I've been told jumped ship in Adelaide. Naughty man! Would that have resulted in court proceedings or would it have been a Navy affair? Strange how things come to mind - I always understood he stayed with Les and Mabel before returning home to England. But they didn't marry until 1932 in England and my Dad married in 1933 in England.... so how can that story be true unless Les was out there much earlier? Came back met Mabel and married! But I'm sure in those days people wouldn't have the money to afford to travel back to England and then back again.
Sorry, I've been thinking aloud. Aren't families strange and it's only since everyone's gone that I've become interested!
Oh well, you have helped me fill in a few dates and given me a further insight into some members of the family,
Best wishes,
Abiam
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SMITH, WEBB, Little Gransden, Gamlingay, Cambs
WEBB, Hatley St George, Hunts
HUNT, Wanborough, Swindon, Wilts
TUBB, Hungerford, Berks, EGERTON, Highworth, Wilts
WISE, South Australia, WISE, Fawley, Berks
WISE, Bray, Binfield, Berks
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Abiam
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Jenn,
I've sent an email attachment of the photograph to a Prahran photographer - a very long shot I know - just in case Gainsborough were well known and they might know of any records or something. It's called clutching at straws.
If you look at my last post you'll see that suddenly I'm not sure when Les went to Australia! And no there's nothing on the back.
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DOBSON,Berks, Wilts.DOPSON, Fyfield, Wilts
SMITH, WEBB, Little Gransden, Gamlingay, Cambs
WEBB, Hatley St George, Hunts
HUNT, Wanborough, Swindon, Wilts
TUBB, Hungerford, Berks, EGERTON, Highworth, Wilts
WISE, South Australia, WISE, Fawley, Berks
WISE, Bray, Binfield, Berks
WYSE, Wise, Maidenhead, Berks
VINCE, VINCENT, St Mary Bourne, Hants, Bucks, Berks
TUCKWELL ANYWHERE!
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deeiluka
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An Alfred Dobson did arrive in Australia on 27th July 1926 on board the Ballarat. He disembarked in Melbourne. That information is on the National Archives of Australia Passenger List.
However, there isn't any way of knowing if it was Alfred Leslie at this stage.
Shall keep digging around.....you never know......
.......dee
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deeiluka
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Abian, just another thought that could help....Leslie appears to have been Alfred Leslie....I wonder if either of the girls had a second given name. There seems to have been quite a trend among those born around the 1870s onwards for a while to go by their second given name. I know my grandmother did....and so did all her siblings.
Two given names could help with sorting the Rose Dobsons that appear in the marriage records here.
......dee
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Abiam
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Could well be him he would have been about 19. Just the right time of life to get up and go! Was that an assisted passage do you know? I would think it was as the family were pretty poverty stricken I imagine. Living in a tiny terraced house with all those siblings - I think I would have gone.
And I imagine he would have found Australia The Big New Country and for some reason came back to England met M and married and then went back to settle. If that was the case then my Father must have stayed with him in digs somewhere.
It's a good hypothesis for 1 in the morning. I'm in Spain so we're an hour later than the UK.
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DOBSON,Berks, Wilts.DOPSON, Fyfield, Wilts
SMITH, WEBB, Little Gransden, Gamlingay, Cambs
WEBB, Hatley St George, Hunts
HUNT, Wanborough, Swindon, Wilts
TUBB, Hungerford, Berks, EGERTON, Highworth, Wilts
WISE, South Australia, WISE, Fawley, Berks
WISE, Bray, Binfield, Berks
WYSE, Wise, Maidenhead, Berks
VINCE, VINCENT, St Mary Bourne, Hants, Bucks, Berks
TUCKWELL ANYWHERE!
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deeiluka
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I have no idea what kind of passage, Abian. I only know the details it showed on the National Archives of Australia Index of Passengers. I wonder if we could find him on Ancestorsonboard.......I'll have a look. As I said, I shall keep looking through the day just in case something crops up.
Tis 8.30a.m. here ....time for my breakfast! 
.....dee
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Abiam
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Have a nice breakfast! I'm just off to bed.
But before I go I've trawled the BMD and found a ROSE ELEANOR DOBSON born July qtr 1893 cookham. The right parish but a year earlier but that doesn't matter as her age only came from the census. Could well be her?
Abiam
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Genealogists never die! They just undertake to join their ancestors!
DOBSON,Berks, Wilts.DOPSON, Fyfield, Wilts
SMITH, WEBB, Little Gransden, Gamlingay, Cambs
WEBB, Hatley St George, Hunts
HUNT, Wanborough, Swindon, Wilts
TUBB, Hungerford, Berks, EGERTON, Highworth, Wilts
WISE, South Australia, WISE, Fawley, Berks
WISE, Bray, Binfield, Berks
WYSE, Wise, Maidenhead, Berks
VINCE, VINCENT, St Mary Bourne, Hants, Bucks, Berks
TUCKWELL ANYWHERE!
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deeiluka
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Abiam....and I have found the marriage of a Rose Eleanor Dobson in Victoria!
Rose Eleanor DOBSON married Percival Fredk THOMAS 1918
Ref: 435
I wonder....I just wonder......
.....dee
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deeiluka
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Well, you can discount the Alfred Dobson who came to Australia in 1826 on board the Ballarat. A check of Ancestorsonboard revealed that he was an Alfred Henry Dobson aged 13 and was part of a family of Dobsons who went to Melbourne.
Back to the drawing board.....
....dee
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trish251
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Pardon me - you had all that - I should learn to read!!
Trish
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deeiluka
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I have found Percival Frederick Thomas's death in Victoria....but cannot find a death for Rose Eleanor there. I checked SA too.....but no sign that I can see.
Perhaps a check of NSW next......
and that proved negative too! 
.....dee
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