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Rowland Cole
« on: Thursday 27 September 07 03:12 BST (UK) »

Hi everyone, i am researching my gr grandfather Rowland cole & have gone in circles getting no-where. He was b. 1855 Dudley ? worcestershire england (ref. death cert & 1871 census derbyshire england),  no b. igi listing. A possible b. dec 1854 Stourbridge staffordshire west midlands, worcestershire. (ref. England FreeBDM 1837-1983) His parents were Elijah & Mira Cole. He was supposed to be a twin? The whole family do not appear in the 1881 census. Rowland migrated to NZ. i am assuming for the moment that the whole fam. migrated havent found anything about ships to Nz between 1872-1880. suggestions of closest port would be appreciated! Does anyone have access to the 1871 census to confirm the household details for Elija & Mira Cole or is this a big ask?
cheers from Oz
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Re: Rowland Cole
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 27 September 07 03:24 BST (UK) »

Rowland Cole was a lodger at harrington St Litchurch Derby in 1871
His p.o.b. is clearly given as Cradley Worcester (not Dudley)
RG10 3573 68 33

Will try and find his parents now

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Re: Rowland Cole
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 27 September 07 03:33 BST (UK) »

1871
Two lanes End
cradley
Worcestershire
(reg dist Stourbridge)

Elijah Cole Head M  40 Puddler Quarry bank Staffordshire
Mira wife M 40 Cradley Worcester
Elizabeth daughter 6  Cradley Worcester
Francis son 3 Cradley Worcester
RG10 3019 40 23

so the Stourbridge birth reg for Rowland looks correct

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Re: Rowland Cole
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 27 September 07 03:41 BST (UK) »

Births
Dec qtr 1854
Stourbridge
Mary jane Cole
Rowland Cole
ref for both
Volume 6c page 138

only other birth same qtr same district
Phiaro Cole
6c 147

Death
Dec qtr 1854
Stourbridge
Phairo cole
6c 182

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Re: Rowland Cole
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 27 September 07 03:53 BST (UK) »

Ah -here is Rowland with his twin sister in 1861

transcribed as "Richen" image reads "Ruben"!!!!!

Think it is him though-at same address as parents are in 1871

1861
Two lanes End
cradley
Worcester
Elijah Cole head M 31 Forgeman Quarry bank Staffs
Maraih wife M 31 betherton Worcester
"Ruben" son 6 Scholar cradley Worcesters
Mary J daughter 6 Scholar Cradley Worcesters
RG9 2063 118 pages 22-23

Sorry can't help with nearest port

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Re: Rowland Cole
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 27 September 07 04:22 BST (UK) »

it looks like Rowland emigrated alone

Haven't found the family in 1881
but they are here 1891/1901

1891
St Lukes St
Cradley heath
Rowley regis

Elijah Cole Head 61 Rowley regis Staffs - invalid 2yrs
Maria wife 61 Cradley Worcester
Frank son U 23 Cradley
RG12 2282 38 27

1901 frank (francis) was married

Sideway St
Staffs
Frank Cole head 34 Iron worker Puddler cradley
Elizabeth wife 29 Halesowen
Frank son 9 halesowen
Reginald son 7 Cradley heath Staffs
Alice daughter 5 Old Hill Staffs
Sidney son 3 Old Hill Staffs
Myria L B daughter 2 Old Hill Staffs
RG13 2732 98 30

Death
Mar qtr 1900
Dudley
Elijah Cole
age 70
6c 6

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Re: Rowland Cole
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 27 September 07 04:25 BST (UK) »

...and here's Mum, sister and twin sister

1901
9 Brookfield Cottages
Garston
lancashire
Mary jane Round M 46 Worcestershire
Rowland Round son 17 groom Staffs
Thomas son 8 Staffs
Mira Cole Mother widow 71 Worcestershire
Elizabeth E Mills(Bills?) sister M 36 Worcester
RG13 3506 42 27

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Re: Rowland Cole
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 27 September 07 04:40 BST (UK) »

Twin sister in 1891
1891 High St
Cradley heath Staffs
Moses Round head 35 Engine Driver Rowley regis Staffs
Mary A wife 36 Cradley Worcester
frederick son 15 Assistant in iron works Rowley regis
Minnie B daughter 12 Rowley regis
Rowland J son 7 Rowley regis
RG12 2282 25 2

marriage
Mar qtr 1875
Stourbridge
Moses Round
mary j Cole
6c 189

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Re: Rowland Cole
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 27 September 07 04:47 BST (UK) »

Marriage
mar qtr 1897 Stourbridge
Edwin Bills
Elizabeth cole
6c 191


I think Elizabeth was a servant in 1891

I cannot find any of the family in 1881 (even Mary jane Round) maybe they emigrated and retruned?Huh?


Hope this helps you

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Re: Rowland Cole
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 10 September 08 05:33 BST (UK) »


   ...    it looks like Rowland emigrated alone


Hi

Hopefully this solves the "mystery" ?

"Cartvale"

Sailed from London - 25 June 1874
To - Wellington, New Zealand - arrived 11 October 1874

Single Men:

COLE - Ronald * - 21 years - Worcestershire - labourer :


(* Ronald - think this is likely a transcription error  ?   (the name wasn't used widely until late 19th century) .   The marriage for Rowland shows on NZ Marriage Index spelt as "Roland").

Vicki, have posted details to your thread on NZ board.

Great work Suz, in sourcing all the info here !  Well done.    Smiley

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Re: Rowland Cole
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 10 September 08 08:03 BST (UK) »

Hi Vic, the Vicar of Cradley 1857 the Rev J.H. Thompson did his own Census of his Cradley flock, I have a copy of his Notebook.  Elijah was living in Two Lanes End Cradley in 1857, the entry says, Elijah Cole Puddler attends Chapel, (Non Conformist) Mirah also attends Chapel she is the daughter of John Priest.  Children Rowland 3 in October, Mary Jane 3 October and an Infant aged 0.

Mirah's parents, living in Netherend Cradley, John Priest Nailer Non Conformist, the Vicar says he likes a drink!  Wife Elizabeth March, children Ellen 12 April attends Methodist Sunday School, Francis 10 April Methodist Sunday School, Charles 6 May, attends Methodist Sunday School and Unitarian School.

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Re: Rowland Cole
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 10 September 08 08:06 BST (UK) »

There is a very good Cradley Web Site.  www.cradleylinks.co.uk

Best Wishes from linell.
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Re: Rowland Cole
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 10 September 08 21:45 BST (UK) »

WOW    Linell   !

Great info.    Three cheers for the Vicar of Cradley (1857) and his wonderful record-keeping skills !      Smiley

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Re: Rowland Cole
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 11 September 08 07:02 BST (UK) »

Hi Lu, yes <LOL>  some of it is really funny, it's a great resource for anyone with Cradley Ancestors.  Best Wishes linell.
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Re: Rowland Cole
« Reply #14 on: Friday 12 September 08 04:01 BST (UK) »

Hi Lu.....again
Ta for the info,  I do believe mystery is solved many many thanks & yes I agree Suzard is a gem, I am really slow with all of this, fit research in (when I should be working  Cheesy). cheers Vic
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