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Ursula JAMES of Launcells
« on: Monday 24 September 07 12:23 BST (UK) »

I wonder if anyone can help solve this mystery.

I have two Surrey birth certificates in which Ursula Luxton formerly James is named as the mother, with John Luxton as the father.

The 1851 census HO107/1603/422/14 shows her age as 47, birthplace Launcells Cornwall. The only birth I can find on IGI in Launcells is 13 Sept 1805, father Thos. James, and the only IGI marriage in Launcells for an Ursula James is to a John Coles on 15 Aug 1822.

Is the Ursula James married to John Luxton the same Ursula who married John Coles Huh and is the birth record for the same person?

Any ideas would be most appreciated,

Michael J.
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Re: Ursula James of Launcells
« Reply #1 on: Monday 24 September 07 12:33 BST (UK) »

It's the only one on the Cornwall marriage index as well, Michael. Could it be a second marriage? I thought that she might have remarried using Cole as her name but can't find anything.

Where was John Luxton born? Also, what ages are the children and do you have them on the 1841?

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Re: Ursula James of Launcells
« Reply #2 on: Monday 24 September 07 13:16 BST (UK) »

Hello Gadget,

Many thanks for replying and confirming that's the only Ursula James marriage in Cornwall.

I don't think it's a second marriage as both certificates clearly state 'Ursula Luxton formerly James' and no mention of 'previously Coles'. The first is for Mary b. 2 Nov 1839 and the second is for George b. 13 Dec 1841. I know of 9 children in all from the three census records.

John Luxton says in 1851 that he was born in Cheriton Devon. I have found them in the 1841 when they and their children are all down as born 'in county', and 1861 census which just says 'Devonshire' for the parents. Incidentally, they both seem to age 11 years between each census, being 36 in 1841, 47 in 1851 and 58 in 1861!  The death certificates say age 61 for John Luxton in Dec 1864 and age 62 for 'Asella' in Jan 1865.

I have heard of a family legend that one of our ancestors changed his name, but when and in which way isn't known.

I have details of all the families after this date, but can't get further back because of this mystery.

Regards Michael J.
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Re: Ursula James of Launcells
« Reply #3 on: Monday 24 September 07 13:23 BST (UK) »

Haven't found a John Cole but I've found a John Luxon, bpt 10 Jan 1804, Talland. Father Charles, mother Mary

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John Luxen 28 Mar 1800, Trevalga. Father John, mother Ann

Both Cornwall Baptism Index.

Nothing in Devon  Sad

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Re: Ursula James of Launcells
« Reply #4 on: Monday 24 September 07 13:40 BST (UK) »

All the John Luxton births in Devon have been accounted for through the Luxton FHS except the John Luxton illegitimate son of Elizabeth Luxton, baptised 5th Jan 1805 in Wembworthy; and John son of William Luxen of the parish of Crediton and Ann his wife baptised at Cheriton Bishop 21st October (1803?). No-one seems to know what happened to these two.

Do you have any later details of the two Johns you have found in Cornwall? We now have two further possible ancestors to check out. . . .

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Re: Ursula James of Launcells
« Reply #5 on: Monday 24 September 07 13:56 BST (UK) »

Sorry Michael, I don't.  I just checked the baptism index  Sad

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Re: Ursula James of Launcells
« Reply #6 on: Monday 24 September 07 14:01 BST (UK) »

Hello Gadget,

Many thanks for everything  Cheesy I will let you know if anything further comes to light.

Regards Michael.
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