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Aylesbury - READER & HICKMAN in Parish records
« on: Saturday 29 September 07 17:10 BST (UK) »
Hi

Can anyone offer me some detail on the READER family, especially those in Temple Street from the early 19th century on, please?

I have loads of data but there seem to be births who no one in the family knew of, perhaps followed by child deaths, and births where the FREEBMD shows a mothers name as different from what we expected! There can be a simple explanattion but before we accept the obvious we'd like to give the benefit of any doubt a run;-) On the other hand perhaps there were more than one branch of the family there?

Any look ups would be appreciated Fathers names are John, Henry and George.

Thanks in anticipation.

Colin

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COLLERIN aka COLLINS GALLAGHER and COX [RC] Highgate, Small Heath, Birmingham 1840-, IRL earlier
FRYER FRIAR Ulster SCO
BROOKES INDIA RA WW1 & 2
WRIGHT Northants
JENNER LASCELLES ENG AUS
CHILD Waterford IRL
MURLY MURLEY Som & Dors NZ Brazil
READER ROGERS Derby & Bucks
Newson Passiful & Watts SFK, NZ, T H Pilots

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Re: Aylesbury - Reader & Hickman in Parish records
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 29 September 07 19:37 BST (UK) »
IGI has this Submitted family:~
(where i have mentioned BMD all districts are Aylesbury unless otherwise stated.)

Henry Reader b. 1817 Parsons Fel Aylesbury father Henry Reader married Ann Austin 21 Oct 1838 Aylesbury (this marriage is backed up by FreeBMD Q4 1838 Aylesbury 6 555) Anns father was Thomas Austin.

Children of Henry Reader & Ann Austin:~

Sarah Hickman Reader b. 28 July 1839 Aylesbury (BMD has Q3 1839 6 316)
Arthur Henry do. b.03 \Feb 1842 do. (BMD Q1 1842 6 359)
Henry John do. b 25 Sept 1844 do. (BMD Q4 1844 6 319)
Theophilus do. b. 08 May 1848 do. (BMD  Q2 1848 6 335) m. Sarah Annie Capp  29 Mar 1874  died 25 Feb 1883, the FullBMD has his marriage as Q1 1874 Leighton Buzzard 3b 582 (it does not give spouse name) and his death as Q1 1883 Northampton 3b 60 age 34.

on FreeBMD i have found thse births that are probably related to yours, although how i do not know.
Q2 1862 Martha Hickman Reader & William Hickman Reader 3a 430 - twins? 

i have found this 1881 census record for Theophilus.
RG11 1553 66 34
Kingswell Terrace , Northampton
Theophilus Reader age 32 head b. aylesbury brewery cooper/
Susan do, 33 wife b. wing
Henry 6 son scholar b. do.
Florence 1 dau. b. Northampton
Charles Capp 26 boarder painter b. wing















 

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Re: Aylesbury - Reader & Hickman in Parish records
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 30 September 07 08:04 BST (UK) »
Thanks Toni

Tho I had some of that data there are several new bits of info i there but most important you save sorted out this family in to their own locations in more detail than I had been able to. The Wing connection and the Parsons Fell place are valuable in the accuracy they give. Also Theos address and date of death.

Grateful appreciation, thanks ;-)

Colin
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PENTLAND in Warks/Worcs/Staffs, IRL: Arm & Down. NZ post 1884 and SCO pre 1800. ORKNEY earlier
COLLERIN aka COLLINS GALLAGHER and COX [RC] Highgate, Small Heath, Birmingham 1840-, IRL earlier
FRYER FRIAR Ulster SCO
BROOKES INDIA RA WW1 & 2
WRIGHT Northants
JENNER LASCELLES ENG AUS
CHILD Waterford IRL
MURLY MURLEY Som & Dors NZ Brazil
READER ROGERS Derby & Bucks
Newson Passiful & Watts SFK, NZ, T H Pilots

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Re: Aylesbury - Reader & Hickman in Parish records
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 30 September 07 08:30 BST (UK) »
the IGI enrty was submitted and not extracted so be wary of it,for example IGI has the marriage of Theo to a Sarah yet in 1881 she is called Susan. i found the relevant births marriages etc on the BMD but this of course does not tell us if the parents are correct, only the certs will tell us that (or baptisim records)

 
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Re: Aylesbury - Reader & Hickman in Parish records
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 30 September 07 12:11 BST (UK) »
Ok, duly noted, many thanks again and I'll watch out for that.

Colin
YARWOOD in Warks/Ches/Staffs/Salop/Worcs but also London, Northants, Lincs and adj counties.
PENTLAND in Warks/Worcs/Staffs, IRL: Arm & Down. NZ post 1884 and SCO pre 1800. ORKNEY earlier
COLLERIN aka COLLINS GALLAGHER and COX [RC] Highgate, Small Heath, Birmingham 1840-, IRL earlier
FRYER FRIAR Ulster SCO
BROOKES INDIA RA WW1 & 2
WRIGHT Northants
JENNER LASCELLES ENG AUS
CHILD Waterford IRL
MURLY MURLEY Som & Dors NZ Brazil
READER ROGERS Derby & Bucks
Newson Passiful & Watts SFK, NZ, T H Pilots

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Re: Aylesbury - Reader & Hickman in Parish records
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 30 September 07 15:07 BST (UK) »
i think you need to just check the 1851 census for the family i found on IGI just confirm if they had any children in between.

what i do when concentrating on one registrations district and one name is to find all the births all the detahs and all the marriages for say 20 years at a time and match these up, then try to get the census details for each person. it may sound long winded but you can be sure of whom belonged to whom and also depending on the popularity of the surname it may not be all that difficult and also remember when searching the census you are most liekly to be seraching families and so can cross off a block of names each time.

hope this makes sense.


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Re: Aylesbury - Reader & Hickman in Parish records
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 30 September 07 15:09 BST (UK) »
re Henry Reader b. 1817 parsons fel, someone  has also submitted on IGI that he was bapt. 12 Nov 1816 at Aylesbury the s/o Henry Reader & Mary Hickman

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Re: Aylesbury - Reader & Hickman in Parish records
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 30 September 07 17:24 BST (UK) »


  To Add to what Toni has found......

  1851 Aylesbury census  HO107/1721 F 270 P0023

 Parsons Fee Aylesbury

  Reader Henry hd m m 34 Aylesbury Bricklayer
               Ann    wi m f 36 Woolwich
               Sarah H da f 11 Aylesbury
              Arthur H  so m 9 Aylesbury
              Henry J  so m 6 Aylesbury
             Theophilus so m 2 Aylesbury.



     Confirms the finds

            Tazzie
Liscoe -all
Green/Simpson/Underwood-Beds
Walker/Foulkes/Fookes/Fooks/Hedges/Lamborne-Bucks.
Stanton/Pattrick/Cooper/Fitzjohn/Holland/Spalding-London
 Rewallin/Underwood -Devon
 Casbolt-London/Cambridge
 Favell/Favel - Lincs-Beds

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Re: Aylesbury - Reader & Hickman in Parish records
« Reply #8 on: Monday 01 October 07 12:26 BST (UK) »
I'm sitting with a copy of Aylesbury Marriages 1691-1754 on my knee,
I can't help you with Reader, there isn't anyone of that name in here, but if you do have the Hickman connection, here are four straight from the records which might come in handy later...

24 Mar 1694/5 Robert Hickman married Mary Thorne

7 Apr 1714 Francis Hickman of Stow married John North labourer of Buckingham

24 Dec 1730 Robert Hickman carpenter of Aylesbury married Elizabeth Parrott of Aylesbury

22 Jul 1741 Ann Hickman spinster of Lynslade married Joseph Brampton bachelor of Leighton Buzzard
Bartlett/Henley on Thames
Caponhurst/Buckinghamshire and?
Denchfield/North Marston/Bucks
Webb/Winchester
Mathias/Pembroke/Pembroke Dock
John/Pembroke/Pembroke Dock
Smith/Portsmouth/Portsea
Purchas/Bucks and?
Olliffe/Bucks