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BevL
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COMPLETED Thomas Roper ?? Fermanagh
« on: Sunday 30 September 07 09:07 UTC (UK) »
I wonder if some kind soul could give me the name of the town where my ggg was born as shown on this death certificate

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Flaherty (Ireland) 1791/2 onwards
Carroll (Ireland)
Fidler (Denton, Lancashire)
Cooper (Southwark, London)
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aghadowey
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Re: Thomas Roper ?? Fermanagh
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 30 September 07 12:35 UTC (UK) »
Written as Irvingstown but likely to be Irvinestown not far from Enniskillen.
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BevL
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Re: Thomas Roper ?? Fermanagh - COMPLETED
« Reply #2 on: Monday 01 October 07 02:10 UTC (UK) »
Thank you Aghadowey,
I knew if anyone could help me, it would be you
Kind regards
Bev
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Moore (Cranbrook) & French (Sussex) 1750-1850 and onwards.
Roper (1810 onwards)  & Trotter (1700's onwards)(Northern Ireland & Scotland).
Flaherty (Ireland) 1791/2 onwards
Carroll (Ireland)
Fidler (Denton, Lancashire)
Cooper (Southwark, London)
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Re: Thomas Roper ?? Fermanagh
« Reply #3 on: Monday 01 October 07 07:28 UTC (UK) »
You're welcome. I didn't have to look that one up since we used to spend a lot of time near Irvinestown.
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BevL
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Re: Thomas Roper ?? Fermanagh
« Reply #4 on: Monday 01 October 07 07:40 UTC (UK) »
I looked at Fermanagh home page and they had a couple of photos of Irvinestown on it and it finally seemed real.  However, the big thing now is to find a birthdate with his parents names on them and we are in business!
Though how the person who put the birthplace as Travestave I don't know .. pronunciation wouldn't be that bad after 37 years in Australia!
Once again thanks
Bev
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Moore (Cranbrook) & French (Sussex) 1750-1850 and onwards.
Roper (1810 onwards)  & Trotter (1700's onwards)(Northern Ireland & Scotland).
Flaherty (Ireland) 1791/2 onwards
Carroll (Ireland)
Fidler (Denton, Lancashire)
Cooper (Southwark, London)
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Re: Thomas Roper ?? Fermanagh
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 09 March 08 00:04 UTC (UK) »
Hello BevL,

I've linked your Thomas Roper, Travstave, Fermanagh thread to this one.

Christopher
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BevL
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Re: Thomas Roper ?? Fermanagh
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 09 March 08 01:17 UTC (UK) »
Thanks Christopher
Wouldn't it be great if someone saw it and said - "I know about him", but then pigs might fly also!!
Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink
Bev
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Moore (Cranbrook) & French (Sussex) 1750-1850 and onwards.
Roper (1810 onwards)  & Trotter (1700's onwards)(Northern Ireland & Scotland).
Flaherty (Ireland) 1791/2 onwards
Carroll (Ireland)
Fidler (Denton, Lancashire)
Cooper (Southwark, London)
All to the lucky country.
BevL
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Re: Thomas Roper ?? Fermanagh
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 11 March 08 03:18 UTC (UK) »
I have discovered that Thomas Roper was living with his grandparents (Trotters) in 1821.  He was 11 at the time, so is there schools around Irvinestown that he would have attended and that I may be able to get a bit of information on him from their records? 
It's ironic, I have the (I presume) maternal grandparents for him, but can't get his parents.
Bev
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Moore (Cranbrook) & French (Sussex) 1750-1850 and onwards.
Roper (1810 onwards)  & Trotter (1700's onwards)(Northern Ireland & Scotland).
Flaherty (Ireland) 1791/2 onwards
Carroll (Ireland)
Fidler (Denton, Lancashire)
Cooper (Southwark, London)
All to the lucky country.
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Re: Thomas Roper ?? Fermanagh
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 11 March 08 14:59 UTC (UK) »
There were small country school scattered all over the countryside in the 1800s. Ordnance Survey Memoirs list school in each area along with year founded, number of pupils, teachers, etc. PRONI have lots of school registers but suspect the ones you need might not go back far enough. School registers list name of pupil, age and date starting school, religion, father's occupation, sometimes (later usually) list exact birthdate and previous school.
Think the first thing you have to do is check what schools were actually in Irvinestown in 1821 (or earlier) then see if mentioned in O.S. Memoirs or if registers at PRONI cover early 1800s.
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Re: Thomas Roper ?? Fermanagh
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 12 March 08 00:11 UTC (UK) »
Thanks aghadowey,
I'll try to follow this through.  It was just a 'wishful thought' of mine that something through the schools would just pop out at me and give me all I need to know!
Kind regards
Bev
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Moore (Cranbrook) & French (Sussex) 1750-1850 and onwards.
Roper (1810 onwards)  & Trotter (1700's onwards)(Northern Ireland & Scotland).
Flaherty (Ireland) 1791/2 onwards
Carroll (Ireland)
Fidler (Denton, Lancashire)
Cooper (Southwark, London)
All to the lucky country.
BevL
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Re: Thomas Roper ?? Fermanagh
« Reply #10 on: Monday 17 March 08 06:57 UTC (UK) »
Hi1 me again,
As I think of things I try to ask people on this board to save me a lot of worry and angst. but I have David Trotter on the 1796 Freeholders list (see attached) for Lowtherstown (now Irvinestown) as well as the 1788 and 1798 Poll of Electors as well as the 1821 census.
I can't read if it says houses & land or just house & land, but my question is if there would be an address for him that I may be able to follow up?
Kind regards
Bev

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Moore (Cranbrook) & French (Sussex) 1750-1850 and onwards.
Roper (1810 onwards)  & Trotter (1700's onwards)(Northern Ireland & Scotland).
Flaherty (Ireland) 1791/2 onwards
Carroll (Ireland)
Fidler (Denton, Lancashire)
Cooper (Southwark, London)
All to the lucky country.
aghadowey
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Re: Thomas Roper ?? Fermanagh
« Reply #11 on: Monday 17 March 08 10:26 UTC (UK) »
Hello again Bev. Says House & Lands. The townland name would have been the 'address'- it was only about 1970 that we got road names and postcodes in the country and at that time Fermanagh kept the townland names.
There are maps that go with Griffith's Valuation and from them you could pinpoint an exact location of a farm or property but you'd have to know who was in the place c1850.
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BevL
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Re: Thomas Roper ?? Fermanagh
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 18 March 08 00:34 UTC (UK) »
Thanks Aghadowey,
Just imagine that cartoon where it shows the lightbulb above the head and that is what happens to me!  I get an idea and am absolutely sure that this idea will find everything I want to know.
Bev
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Moore (Cranbrook) & French (Sussex) 1750-1850 and onwards.
Roper (1810 onwards)  & Trotter (1700's onwards)(Northern Ireland & Scotland).
Flaherty (Ireland) 1791/2 onwards
Carroll (Ireland)
Fidler (Denton, Lancashire)
Cooper (Southwark, London)
All to the lucky country.
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