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corndolly
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Hi all
Genuki says Bradfield reg. district was created in 1837 and lists all civil parishes under its umbrella, one of which is Streatley.
Where or what did it cover prior to 1837?
Have found a birth on the IGI '1810 Bradfield'; right name, round about the right date, but on the 1841 and subsequent census, place of birth was given as Streatley.
Am trying to establish if Bradfield covered Streatley before 1837
Can anyone please help?
corndolly
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Martin Briscoe
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Hi all
Genuki says Bradfield reg. district was created in 1837 and lists all civil parishes under its umbrella, one of which is Streatley.
Where or what did it cover prior to 1837?
Have found a birth on the IGI '1810 Bradfield'; right name, round about the right date, but on the 1841 and subsequent census, place of birth was given as Streatley.
Am trying to establish if Bradfield covered Streatley before 1837
Can anyone please help?
corndolly
Civil registration began in 1837 so it did not exist before then.
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Ruskie
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(Sorry corndolly, I misled you with the wrong information  . My apologies. Please ignore all that I posted ....)
Got my counties mixed up 
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corndolly
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Thankyou both
I was the opposite way round Ruskie. I know where Streatley is (by the side of Goring) couldn't find Bradfield, ergo didn't know if it was a place or just given to a district as a name. Do you know where Bradfield actually was?
You're probably right about the church/christening - I take it Bradfield St Nicholas church was in Bradfield?
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Hi corndolly,
Sorry posted wrong information again before I discovered my previous error.
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corndolly
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thanks for coming back Ruskie, easy to make a mistake.
Back to the original query.
O.K. before 1837 Bradfield district didn't exist, so where would the 'Bradfield' of 1810 as mentioned on the IGI have been?
I'll go along with the idea it still probably relates to a church somewhere in Berkshire, but where?
anybody any ideas?
corndolly
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JAP
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Hello Corndolly,
From GENUKI, you will find that Bradfield and Streatley were two separate parishes. Genuki's list of 'nearby places' under Bradfield lists Streatley as 4.8 miles NNW; and under Streatley lists Bradfield as 4.5 miles S (!).
If you go to
http://www.streetmap.co.uk
and search for either place, then zoom out, you will get a map which includes both places.
The Library catalogue on FamilySearch indicates that parish registers for both parishes are held on film - births/baptisms for Bradfield to 1833, and for Streatley to 1987. It might be worth ordering the Streatley film in to your nearest LDS Family History centre.
Similar dates are listed for these parishes on the Berkshire Records Office site (the parish church for Bradfield being Bradfield St Andrew, and for Streatley being Streatley St Mary).
However, the Hugh Wallis site does not list Streatley at all, and for Bradfield lists online births/baptisms only to 1754.
Perhaps if you tell us the name of the person, we might have some suggestions?
Regards,
JAP
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corndolly
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Again thankyou both for your replies.
Not too sure I follow all of the last para., will re-read more slowly!
Didn't mean to sound vague on the original query.
Have a William Lay (b.c1812) married to Ann  .
1841 census has William from Streatley, Ann from East Ilsley. Checking the IGI for possible parentage the nearest reference I could find was a William Leaigh b.29/4/1810 Bradfield, son of a George Leaigh and Hannah.
Possible siblings of William - all listed at Bradfield - George Ley 1801, Ann Ley 1804, Mary Ann Ley 1807, Sarah Leigh 1813.
Would really appreciate any help you can offer
corndolly
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Little Nell
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The parish of Bradfield is about 8 miles from the parish of East Ilsley (possibly less in some places).
East Ilsley parish is about 4 miles from the parish of Streatley. Parishes varied geographically in size - this is boundary to boundary measurements! 
If you are able to get to an LDS Family History Centre, you could order the films of both Streatley and Bradlfield to see if there was any extra detail to help you.
So Bradfield is not that far from East Ilsley. Sort of just down the hill into the (Thames) valley.
Nell
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Hello again Corndolly,
The source information at the bottom of the IGI screen for William LEAIGH of Bradfield indicates that the batch covers the years 1748-1754 only - but it actually goes at least to 1833! Weird. Perhaps the LDS added further records but didn't update the source information ...
There don't seem to be any Streatley records in the online IGI.
... The Library catalogue on FamilySearch indicates that parish registers for both parishes are held on film - births/baptisms for Bradfield to 1833, and for Streatley to 1987. It might be worth ordering the Streatley film in to your nearest LDS Family History centre. It surely would be worth doing this in order to see whether there is an appropriate William 'LAY' birth/baptism in Streatley.
Similar dates are listed for these parishes on the Berkshire Records Office site (the parish church for Bradfield being Bradfield St Andrew, and for Streatley being Streatley St Mary). I mentioned this for information - just in case you might find it easier to get to this Records Office rather than to an LDS Family History centre.
However, the Hugh Wallis site does not list Streatley at all, and for Bradfield lists online births/baptisms only to 1754. This too I mentioned just for information - the Hugh Wallis site is an extensive listing of batch numbers for parishes in the online IGI. However, it was last updated in the April 2002 so is not up to date.
Do you have any further information about your William LAY or only census information (does it give any further clues)? Have you found his marriage, or any births of children?
Have you checked the 1841 census for another William 'LAY' - but born Bradfield ca 1810?
Good luck,
JAP
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Scotland - HALL, HARLEY, LOCHTY/LOCHTIE/LOUGHTIE/LOUGHTY (very rare), MCLAUSE/MCLAWS/MCILHOSE/HOSE (quite rare and many very variable spellings - close to 100 to date), PHILP/PHILIP, VASSIE; Ireland - BOURKE/BURKE, DONOHUE (many spellings), DOOLEY, KINSELLA, MAXWELL, OSBORNE, RAFFERTY, STA(U)NTON, SULLIVAN; England - BAYES, BROWNELL, DALTON, FREEMAN, HACKING, PIERCY, SIDDLE, SWIFT, SULLIVAN, TINK(L)ER, TRIPPIT. Any spellings and many other names!
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