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Mitchell Family - Dundee
« on: Tuesday 02 October 07 10:04 BST (UK) »

I'm trying to help a relative in Canada find info about her family who came from Dundee.

Her grandfather David Mitchell b1886 at 2 Cochrane Street Dundee emigrated to Vancouver and there married an Annie Weddell b 1887 from Glasgow.

Davids parents were John Mitchell and Engine Fitter and Isabella Robertson.

Any help no matter how small is greatly appreciated.

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Re: Mitchell Family - Dundee
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 02 October 07 18:43 BST (UK) »

sorry posted in error.
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Re: Mitchell Family - Dundee
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 02 October 07 20:00 BST (UK) »

hi moira

did the family emigrate or just david ?
if you have a birth cert for david does it show marriage for parents ?

yours

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Re: Mitchell Family - Dundee
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 02 October 07 20:19 BST (UK) »

Scotland's People Website www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk (this is a pay pre view site but the marriage certificate will show both parties parents as well) has a marriage as follows

1871 MITCHELL JOHN ROBERTSON ISABELLA ST CLEMENT DUNDEE CITY/ANGUS 282/03 0109
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Re: Mitchell Family - Dundee
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 02 October 07 21:09 BST (UK) »

hi moira

did the family emigrate or just david ?
if you have a birth cert for david does it show marriage for parents ?

yours

ev

Just David. She has a mc showing his parents marrying in 1871 but what she's hoping for are details of any of Davids siblings or descendants.
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Re: Mitchell Family - Dundee
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 02 October 07 21:11 BST (UK) »

1871 MITCHELL JOHN ROBERTSON ISABELLA ST CLEMENT DUNDEE CITY/ANGUS 282/03 0109

She has the mc........and what she's hoping to find are siblings of Davids and maybe his aunts and uncles and descendents.

Many thank to Ev and Sherlock for your replies.....really grateful for any assistance
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Re: Mitchell Family - Dundee
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 02 October 07 22:09 BST (UK) »

Hi Moira

There a couple of possibilities for David in the 1891 Census, but none with John and Isabella as parents. There is a David with mother Isabella visiting family, there is a family headed up by a John and Annie, and there is a 4 yrs old David boarding with a Cameron family.

If your friend has the 1871 MC, it would be worthwhile posting the info contained there (their ages at marriage, parents' names including fathers' occupations and mothers' maiden names). This would help in finding out info regarding John and Isabella's parents/siblings and at the same time, help in finding David in the 1891/1901 censuses.

Regards.

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Re: Mitchell Family - Dundee
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 02 October 07 22:42 BST (UK) »

MUST MUST remember my variants!

I think this is them in 1881 before the birth of David. Isabella is down as Elizabeth (a standard variant for Isabel/la). All the children look to have been born in Dundee:

John Mitchell    32, Mechanie Fitter At Work, b. Perth, Perthshire
Elisabeth Mitchell 31, b. Dundee
John Mitchell    11
Christina Mitchell    9
Willm Mitchell    8
Henry Mitchell    6
Thos Mitchell    4
James Mitchell    2
Elizabeth Mitchell 7 Mo

Address: 4 John Street, St Mary, Dundee

Some of the children showing on IGI to John and ELIZABETH ROBERTSON:

1. JOHN MITCHELL  Birth: 29 AUG 1869 Dundee, Angus, Scotland
2. CHRISTINA MITCHELL Birth: 14 JUN 1871 Dundee, Angus, Scotland
3. WILLIAM MITCHELL  Birth: 13 MAR 1873 Dundee, Angus, Scotland

If this is the right set of parents, they look to have had John before they married and married on 12 June just before the birth of Christina on the 14 June 1871.

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Re: Mitchell Family - Dundee
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 02 October 07 23:08 BST (UK) »

Moira, you are going to have your work cut out tracing through the family from the time of David's birth in 1886 Cry   Mother Elizabeth (Isabella) looks to have died the following year, family were still living at 2 Cochrane Street when she died:

1887   MITCHELL   ELIZABETH       ROBERTSON   F   36   ST MARY   DUNDEE CITY/ANGUS   282/02 0178   

The younger children that I can see from the 1881 census are all spread out. In 1891, there is a James M, 12 and Thomas M, 14 at the Dundee Industrial School for Boys at Baldoran Strathmartine, Angus.

Then there is the now likely 5yrs old (sorry, I wrote 4 earlier on) David Mitchell boarding at a Cameron household in 33 Cowgate, St Andrew Dundee.

There is also a 15yrs old Henry Mitchell, born Dundee, at the Oldmill Reformatory School, in the Parish of Newhills in the County of Aberdeen

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Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
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Re: Mitchell Family - Dundee
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 02 October 07 23:14 BST (UK) »

In 1901, there is a 15 year old David Mitchell, a tailor's apprentice - scholar at the
Dundee Industrial School for Boys at Downfield, Strathmartine, Angus. There are only 7 David Mitchell's showing in his age range in 1901 with a Dundee birth place, all the rest are living with parents.
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Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
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Re: Mitchell Family - Dundee
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 02 October 07 23:34 BST (UK) »

This looks like Elizabeth Robertson's family in the 1861 Census. Everyone showing as born in Dundee. Mother is Catherine TAYLOR:

Wm Robertson 32, baker
Catherine Robertson 33
Ann Robertson    14
Elizabeth Robertson 11
Catherine Robertson 9
Jane Robertson    7
Mary Ann Robertson 4
William Robertson 2
Margaret Robertson 6 Mo
Mary Dommersnes 23, boarder

Address: 96 Overgate, Dundee



And a likely entry for John in 1861, everyone showing as born in Perth:

Elspet Balontque (Ballantyne?) 60, mother
Betsy Mitchell    22, head
Cathrine Mitchell 17, sister
Mary Mitchell    15, sister
John Mitchell 9, brother

Address: Cherry Field, Liff and Benvie, Dundee Second District.

and in 1871:

Betsy Mitchell    76
Betsy Mitchell    31
John Mitchell 22, mechanic
Mary Mitchell    24
Thomas Mitchell 5

Address: Cherryfd Lane Edwards Ld, Liff and Benvie, Dundee St Mary

This looks like an entry for John's parents' marriage (or Banns) from the Old Parish Registers:

THOMAS MITCHELL Marriages: Spouse: ELSPETH BALLANTINE    
Marriage:  01 JUN 1835  Perth, Perth, Scotland


Moira, I'll stop now and let you go through all this lot!

Regards.

Monica  Smiley
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Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
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Re: Mitchell Family - Dundee
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 03 October 07 18:40 BST (UK) »

Moira

Just to tidy up one small point.

Being born and bred in Dundee, the Dundee Industrial School for Boys at Baldoran Strathmartine, Angus is actually at Baldovan, Downfield, Strathmartine.


Great work by MonicaLesl as usual !
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