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COPPERWHEAT Family - Marsdon Mortaine
« on: Thursday 04 October 07 11:31 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I am researching my brother-in-laws family and have discovered many of them in Marsden Mortaine;  However his great grandfather Henry Copperwheat and wife mary Ann Jervis 's deaths are proving difficult to find.  They married Ampthill 12 Oct 1870 and to our knowledge had two children William and Sarah A Copperwheat;  William was my brother-in-laws grandfather.  Who is another where I am finding the death difficult to trace;
William married Sarah Holyoak in Chelveston we beleive but this is another date I cannot trace.

Anyone with any Copperwheat information please to get in touch; 

eise
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Re: Copperwheat family Marsdon Mortaine
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 04 October 07 12:27 BST (UK) »
Hi
Have you traced them on censuses? Only I noticed that from 1881 onwards they are in Northamptonshire where Mary Ann was born - maybe this is why you are having difficulty with their deaths, as they aren't in the area you were expecting?
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge
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Re: Copperwheat family Marsdon Mortaine
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 04 October 07 12:36 BST (UK) »
Hi again
Is it the death of William and Sarah you can't find or their marriage? If marriage it is on FreeBMD

Apr qtr 1891 Thrapston district Vol3b Pg309

The certificate would confirm whether it took place in Chelveston - it is the right district

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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge
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« Reply #3 on: Thursday 04 October 07 14:05 BST (UK) »
They were both alive and living in Rushden Northants in 1901.

Have you checked Freebmd at http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl?

There's a Henry Copperwheat death age 62 in 1911 in Wellingborough RD

For deaths after 1915 coverage on FreeBMD gets patchy, with very few after 1919. You then need to go through the GRO death indexes quarter by quarter
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Re: COPPERWHEAT Family - Marsdon Mortaine
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 04 October 07 16:50 BST (UK) »
Hello eise,

The Henry Copperwheat married to Mary Jarvis was my 2nd cousin 4 times removed. Unfortunately i can't help with dates of death at the moment.

I've many Copperwheats in my family and i'll see what i can uncover re Henry & Mary. Poli.
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Re: COPPERWHEAT Family - Marsdon Mortaine
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 06 October 07 10:50 BST (UK) »
Dear Eise

I have a distant connection to this family ...but that is getting off the point!  Roll Eyes

This COPPERWHEAT branch [from Marston M] appear to have come from Norfolk originally and are not related to the the COPPERWAIT/E [or COPPERWHEATs] of East Bedfordshire [particularly the village of Clifton]?

If you go to the Gaol site [
http://apps.bedfordshire.gov.uk/grd/search.aspx
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Type in ''COPP'' and you will see them all both Marston & Clifton.

Worth looking into the Beds Archives search site too.

As for your missing people, I expect they died well into the 20th C so do not appear on the free BMD?  Although I can not see them on the 1891 census for Bedfordshire which is free and online.

There is a COPPERWHEAT on Marston Mortayne's War Memorial and that is online too [he was Walter & Julia's son and probably a nephew of Henry?]

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Re: COPPERWHEAT Family - Marsdon Mortaine
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 06 October 07 12:37 BST (UK) »
Eise

I think your reseach interest family must have moved away from Bedfordshire as they were not here in later census [1891/1900 - I havent checked the 1881]

If you know where they went to that would help - I expect they had more than 2 children too?

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Herfordshire and West London: Brown [Kent in early 19th C]; Blackwell.
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Re: COPPERWHEAT Family - Marsdon Mortaine
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 06 October 07 12:46 BST (UK) »
Hi Cathy
They are in Northants - see earlier replies on this thread
Jan Wink
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge
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Re: COPPERWHEAT Family - Marsdon Mortaine
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 07 October 07 09:46 BST (UK) »
thanks, Jan  Smiley

I was just looking in Beds and missed them! - best for Eise  to keep an eye on Beds Archives search site as info is being added all the time and it would be interesting to see why they moved and how they were recruited?

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Herfordshire and West London: Brown [Kent in early 19th C]; Blackwell.
McCarthy [Clonakilty, County Cork - searching for needles in the haystack!] and LOSTY [Dublin]
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Re: COPPERWHEAT Family - Marsdon Mortaine
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 07 October 07 20:12 BST (UK) »
I run a forum for the Ampthill Community and someone posted about this family on there I will mention this thread on there and they maybe able to help.  They actaully had some old photos from a relative.
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Re: COPPERWHEAT Family - Marsdon Mortaine
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 07 October 07 22:26 BST (UK) »
There ia a death for Henry Copperwheat b 1849 in Ancestry.

It gives the death as 1911  --Wellingborough district 3b171 July quarter Northamptonshire.

There is a marriage for William Copperwheat & Sarah Holyoak in Thrapston District Northamptonshire in June 1891. 3b 309

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PLACEs:-Hendon[Middx] -Ampthill [Bedfordshire] Norwich [Norfolk]-[Carlow]Ireland -Leicestershire [Shearsby] Gillingham [Kent]- Dorset-Northamptonshire-
NAMES:Smart--[De Lima]Woods-Copperwheat-Totterdell-Thompson-Whitebread-Nudd-Golding-Farrow-Oakley-Billington-Ostler-Denton-Sherwood-Cuckow-Franklin-Law-Edge-Silver-

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