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Re: Anybody have an old map of Carlisle?
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 09 May 09 07:50 UTC (UK) »

Looks like I'll be walking down there again today then. Smiley
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Re: Anybody have an old map of Carlisle?
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 09 May 09 11:03 UTC (UK) »

Looks like you've solved my original question Smiley

Thank you for the lovely photos, and the map on this thread and the other one about Backhouses Lane.  I now have a good idea where it is, and will make a detour from shopping next time I am in Carlisle.

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Re: Anybody have an old map of Carlisle?
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 09 May 09 11:15 UTC (UK) »

Hi All, Hi Rosemary.  I hadn't seen you on a post for a bit.

Looking at my bits of maps, I've still got some "holes", but I wonder from 1821, if that chimney isn't the old West Walls Brewery?  The later one - 1850's - has a cotton factory, further back.  I wonder if they were refewrring to that?

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Re: Anybody have an old map of Carlisle?
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 09 May 09 11:28 UTC (UK) »

Hi Emms

I had a bit of a break from family history.  My dad died in February, and the weeks before and after are a bit of a blur really. 

But I'm back again,  so you'll see a bit more of me. 

I don't know much about Carlisle even though it's only an hour away, so any information is greatly appreciated.  My husband's family didn't know about the Carlisle connection until I started digging, so they're fascinated as well.

His family started life there in Tarraby, I've noticed a sign for a footpath there on the road to Newcastle, but don't know anything about it, or if there are still houses there.  One of these days, I'll stop the car and have a wander down there.

Best wishes

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Re: Anybody have an old map of Carlisle?
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 09 May 09 12:38 UTC (UK) »

Rosemary, put your wellies in the car and park up at the back of the art college on Brampton Rd. The back is Tarraby Lane and you walk up it to Tarraby but it gets a bit muddy in parts. The field on your left is the Hadrians Wall Vallum, a world wide heritage so can't be built on. Further up there are giant "grasses" that grow every year but I haven't been able to identify. Across the last 2 fields(sometimes with horses) and you arrive at the back of the Tarraby houses. 2 old farms have been converted and the rest are cottages/ bungalows. It's all public footpath so you are not trespassing. Left will take you up almost to J44 (M6) and right will take you to the main road, a pub for refreshment then a stroll down to the Art College and car. Geoff will put me right on distance but I would guess about a mile and a half, 2 max. We often used to walk it to the pub in summer and we did look at buying one of the farm apartment conversions. It's lovely and worth the visit.
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Re: Anybody have an old map of Carlisle?
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 09 May 09 12:50 UTC (UK) »

I'm a jam eater really)

Wuckinton?

I've a feeling it means different things to different people.  Undecided
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Re: Anybody have an old map of Carlisle?
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 09 May 09 13:33 UTC (UK) »

Rosemary, put your wellies in the car and park up at the back of the art college on Brampton Rd. The back is Tarraby Lane and you walk up it to Tarraby but it gets a bit muddy in parts. The field on your left is the Hadrians Wall Vallum, a world wide heritage so can't be built on. Further up there are giant "grasses" that grow every year but I haven't been able to identify. Across the last 2 fields(sometimes with horses) and you arrive at the back of the Tarraby houses. 2 old farms have been converted and the rest are cottages/ bungalows. It's all public footpath so you are not trespassing. Left will take you up almost to J44 (M6) and right will take you to the main road, a pub for refreshment then a stroll down to the Art College and car. Geoff will put me right on distance but I would guess about a mile and a half, 2 max. We often used to walk it to the pub in summer and we did look at buying one of the farm apartment conversions. It's lovely and worth the visit.
bob(of the carlisle tourism - only joking - I'm a jam eater really)
Rosemary,
If the weather is really bad stay at home,leave the wellies in the car and go too Google earth and check out the street view.
regards,Billy.
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Re: Anybody have an old map of Carlisle?
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 09 May 09 13:41 UTC (UK) »

Thanks for the detailed directions Bob - I'll save them for the next school holidays.  I'll spend a day at Carlisle, taking in Tarraby, Backhouse Lane, and maybe the record office (long overdue) to browse through some parish records.

Hopefully the weather will have bucked up a bit by then.

Here in Whitehaven, we call Workington folks 'jameaters'.   But you're right Geoff, there's a bit of a disagreement as to which town are the rightful owners of the name.

Is Tarraby actually on street view yet?

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Re: Anybody have an old map of Carlisle?
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 09 May 09 14:19 UTC (UK) »

Yes Wuckinton but apart from yan, tan, tetherer I've lost the lingo. I was always told that it started during the depression cos the steel works kept Workington that bit richer than Whitehaven (Herr Schon hadn't started his chemical works) so could afford jam but Whitehaven folk could only afford margerine.
Tried to get a photo of the chumley from the other side but it's hard to spot. It could well have been the brewery as there is a sign saying "Danger Hoist" and the building is 5 stories high at that point.
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Re: Anybody have an old map of Carlisle?
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 09 May 09 14:22 UTC (UK) »

Far end of walk then under the nelson bridge
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Re: Anybody have an old map of Carlisle?
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 09 May 09 18:47 UTC (UK) »

Hi Rosemary

I'm sorry to hear your news. 

It's nice to see you back on the board though.  I must be slow.  I've just cottoned on the photo is Whitehaven harbour, despite the caption!  A bit more up beat than mine!

Best wishes

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Re: Anybody have an old map of Carlisle?
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 09 May 09 18:53 UTC (UK) »

Hi Bob

Thank you for the great photo's.  That gives a much better idea what's going on! 

It looks from the colour scheme as if those are indeed the back of the buildings on West Walls, am I right?

I see vehicles there too.  So I guess I can get the car up.  Is it realistic in a normal car?  Is that a dead end, or can you drive under the bridge?  Thank you for letting me view it from here, thpough.

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Re: Anybody have an old map of Carlisle?
« Reply #27 on: Saturday 09 May 09 19:28 UTC (UK) »

It looks from the colour scheme as if those are indeed the back of the buildings on West Walls, am I right?

I see vehicles there too.  So I guess I can get the car up.  Is it realistic in a normal car?  Is that a dead end, or can you drive under the bridge?  Thank you for letting me view it from here, though.

Here's an alternative view, it looks as if you're right http://tinyurl.com/pmlsma

You must be able to escape from there somehow Wink
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Re: Anybody have an old map of Carlisle?
« Reply #28 on: Saturday 09 May 09 20:20 UTC (UK) »

It looks as though it would have been a dark and dingy place to live Geoff.

I can't imagine what it must have been like having to go back there after a hard days work.  I wonder how many people lived in those buildings at one time, and probably no fire escapes in those days.

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Re: Anybody have an old map of Carlisle?
« Reply #29 on: Saturday 09 May 09 21:07 UTC (UK) »

Geoff, thats brilliant. The chumley is right above the s in backhouses walk and you can see why I struggled today. It also shows that the building I photoed has 7 stories to the front which gives some idea of the slope I had to climb to get to the back. Just seen photos! Don't think I got that quite right. Followed instructions but will try again so if anybody in charge can slap my wrists I'll do what they say. Undecided
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