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Re: Dolton Pub
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 09 October 07 18:12 BST (UK) »

Hi Trees

In 1881, the Globe was run by Fanny Westcott....The Gunsmith's Arms is , of course, in the village of Beaford, nearby are two Cottages ... Chaplan Cottage and Myrtle Cottage ... Heard Families live in them. I wonder if these names would help in your search ? Maybe the cottages are still standing!

The Globe Inn, Beaford
Address: Exeter Road, Beaford, Winkleigh, Devon, EX19 8LR [map] [gmap]

Tel: 01805 603261

I wonder if they would be able to help?

I will look for more

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Re: Dolton Pub
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 09 October 07 18:57 BST (UK) »

Hi Trees

in 1901 it seems that Robert A Heard , 33 is the innkeeper for the Gunsmith's Arms ... on census the Post Office is "next door". No street address , i'm afraid Undecided

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Re: Dolton Pub
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 09 October 07 19:04 BST (UK) »

Trees .....

Could this be it ??

http://www.northdevonfood.com/Pubs2.htm

Blacksmith's Arms Torrington.

let me know?

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« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 10 October 07 17:40 BST (UK) »

Hi Debz ,
don't know how I missed these last posts Robert A was Robert Arthur he was one of William's sons. William lived in Myrtle cottage when he was first married to Robert's daughter I have found an old map of Beaford that we picked up years back Followinf the 1901 census The enumerator goes along the main Road passes the Bible Christian chapel then the school and the school house and then the post Office then its the pub so that pins it down pretty accurately I should think any one who lives there should be able to tell us if its still standing. No the Black Smiths you have found is right in Bideford at the top of the Tarka trail Beaford is further down but its the same valley I might e mail them though it might interest them to know the existence of another pub with the same name I'm pretty sure it can no longer be a pub. The Globe is the only one that comes up when I try Beaford


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Re: Dolton Pub
« Reply #19 on: Friday 07 December 07 10:33 GMT (UK) »

Hi again Hazel and Deb, did you notice on the Dolton website 'Maps of local area' there's a map of Beaford dated 1850, not very clear, but some names of places, also when I lived in Dolton in the 40's and 50's several local women did glove making, they were sent the cut out gloves from Torrington and they sewed the two halves together, they were only paid a pittance but there wasn't much else in the way of work locally.
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Re: Dolton Pub
« Reply #20 on: Friday 07 December 07 10:40 GMT (UK) »

Hi Bill,
Thanks for that Can you see the aerial photos of Dolton? Can you tell where the Union is from the photos?
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Re: Dolton Pub
« Reply #21 on: Friday 07 December 07 12:41 GMT (UK) »

Thank you for the reply via e mail so The Union was in the main Road and clearly seen on the arial photograph Many thanks
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Re: Dolton Pub
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 05 April 08 19:54 BST (UK) »

Hi Hazel

Thanks for your Pm's re Robert and his family and his wife Rebecca Westcott.... i have just reread this thread ... and look what pops up ..

Quote from: deb usa on Tuesday 09 October 07 18:12 BST (UK)

Hi Trees

In 1881, the Globe was run by Fanny Westcott....The Gunsmith's Arms is , of course, in the village of Beaford, nearby are two Cottages ... Chaplan Cottage and Myrtle Cottage ... Heard Families live in them. I wonder if these names would help in your search ? Maybe the cottages are still standing!

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« Reply #23 on: Saturday 05 April 08 22:14 BST (UK) »

Yes Deb thats why I thought I'd share the news with you . I can see two Rebecca Westcotts in Beaford on the 1851 census
Rebecca daur of William and Ann b 1819 William is at the GLOBE
and John's wife b 1818 (wife of school master.
The Globe is almost opposite the Gunsmith's Arms and next but one to the School House take a look at my Web site under Occupations Publicans -Devon pubs The Gunsmith's Arms to see the position of the school & Gunsmith's The Globe is just a little bit further on and on the opposite side of the main Rd
John and Rebecca are still together in1871 so she must be the daughter of the William and Ann at the Globe wow so I can loosely add the Globe to the list of pubs how boozy is that Grin

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Re: Dolton Pub
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 05 April 08 22:36 BST (UK) »

Hazel

cheers ! LOL ....

thanks for that ...I was getting a little confused ...

Your website is great !

Look what I have found on National Archives ;

Information relating to document ref. no. QS/63/6/13/019
William Westcott, Globe Inn
Date: 1828.

Information relating to document ref. no. QS/63/7/03/013
William Westcott, Globe Inn
Date: 1827.

Information relating to document ref. no. QS/63/4/08/009
William Westcott, Globe Inn
Date: 1826.

Information relating to document ref. no. QS/63/5/04/011
William Westcott, Globe Inn
Date: 1825.

Information relating to document ref. no. QS/63/4/01/001
William Westcott, Globe Inn
Date: 1824

Information relating to document ref. no. QS/63/3/03/029
William Westcott, Globe Inn
Date: 1823.

Information relating to document ref. no. QS/63/2/07/002
William Westcott, Globe Inn
Date: 1822.

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« Reply #25 on: Saturday 05 April 08 23:00 BST (UK) »

Many thanks for your kind words re the web site we are trying to get a bit of flesh on the basic bones now but its taking ages. I cant seem to find those references in the N A catalogue for some daft reason where have you found them? or what am I doing wrong? I wonder if they are his applications for licences they had to be issued annually
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Re: Dolton Pub
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 05 April 08 23:11 BST (UK) »

As you were I've found them must be getting tired I'm up early tommorrow on coffee duty in Church
thanks for your help tonight talk tomorrow
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Re: Dolton Pub
« Reply #27 on: Saturday 05 April 08 23:38 BST (UK) »

Hi Hazel

I was also wondering what they were... did they have insurance in those days ? Undecided

The fact that the ref starts with QS ...do you think that they may be quarter sessions?

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Re: Dolton Pub
« Reply #28 on: Sunday 06 April 08 00:04 BST (UK) »

also from NA:

Beaford: various properties

FILE - [no title] - ref. 4222/21/1-3 - date: 1831

Contents
Lease and release to bar entail by Robert Heard, eldest son of Robert Heard at 4222/20 above; Lucy Snell, John Snell's widow: Anthony Snell and William Snell both of Beaford, gents. to William Tooke of the City of Westminster, esq. for the property at 4222/20
With exemplification of common recovery

Beaford: various properties ..... dolton
FILE - [no title] - ref. 4222/22/1-2 - date: 1832

Contents
Lease and release for the purpose of making a partition of the property at 4222/20 by Anthony and William Snell at 4222/21 to Robert Heard of Beaford, gunsmith

these may also be of interest:
North Devon Record Office 2215A-1/PO 18
Removal of John Heard from Thirsk, (Yorkshire) to Beaford
Date: 1750

North Devon Record Office 2215A-1/PO 3
Settlement Examination of Margery Heard - born in Beaford - worked in Tetcott
Date: 1743.

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Re: Dolton Pub
« Reply #29 on: Wednesday 09 April 08 10:15 BST (UK) »

Deb many thanks for all this. Yes the licenses for sale of liquor were issued annually at the quarter sessions so these will be worth a look. I have seen the Removal of John Heard but think the most important part was missing as all that was in that folder was the certificate of lawful settlement. These were issued after a settlement examination giving the person the right to reside in the named parish in this case Beaford there was no mention of Yorkshire anywhere other than the title on the folder very strange Huh

I'll get the other documents out next trip to Barnstaple many thanks again.
sorry not to have replied earlier have had very little time to breath this week lol
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