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andrew boynton
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Wills , missing parent ,
« on: Saturday 06 October 07 11:00 BST (UK) »

I was researching my family tree and i traced it back to 1847 when my great great grandmother(Ruth Farrand) was born in a workhouse. Whilst i was on ancestry.com there was a woman who was related to my Ruth farrrand  and she told me that ruths mother had been a servant in a very wealthy familys home and that they had royal blood and she had slept with the son of the family.  I think when ruths mother was a servant she got pregnant and told her master who she had slept with and that he had kicked her out. Ruths mother stayed in the workhouse for a few years then married again to a guy called john nicholson. I want to find out who Ruths father was. How do i do this?

The next thing is that great grandmother and father owned a farm. My great grandfathers father was an agricultural laborer and great grandmother was a signal man so didn't exactly have lots of money. I want to know how my grandparents were able to afford a farm? How big was it ? Did they have anyone working for them.
My great grandmother was called Sarah ann nicholson and her husband was tom jenkinson.

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Re: Wills , missing parent ,
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 06 October 07 11:39 BST (UK) »

Hi
Can you give a few more details here?   Who left the will?  What date?   Where?    I tried looking for Sarah and Tom Jenkinson in Notts but could not find a suitable pair.  Can you quote a census reference?
As to Ruth and her illustrious father.  I fear you may never know the truth.   There may be more information in the workhouse records.  Have you looked at them?   I wish I had a pound for every time I have heard the "servant and royal master" story.  Yours may be true but proving it will be very hard.
Andrea
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Rowan, Tow, Forman, Brown, Allen and King in Yorkshire, Northumberland and Durham. 
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« Reply #2 on: Saturday 06 October 07 13:02 BST (UK) »

I think I have your family - 1901 RG13; Piece: 4415; Folio: 82; Page: 4

Tom Jenkinson 28 yrs and Sarah Ann 25 yrs plus 3 children.
At this time, Tom is an agricultural labourer.
If these are the farm owners, you are talking about fairly recent times - post 1901. It may have been little more than a small holding; it may have been left to Tom by a grateful employee - who knows? You perhaps know the size of the farm and I suppose land registry could give you more details.

I was thinking that maybe you were trying to connect Ruth's birth circumstances with the money to acquire the farm?

Ruth seems to be the one married to John Nicholson, not her mother as I think you state. I am bit confused with the information. John is the signalman. There is a marriage for 1875 for them.

Did Ruth's mother marry John Robinson which was a year after Ruth's birth?

1851 the family are in Liverpool with Hannah Farrand, 'farmer's wife' visiting. This perhaps debateable because 1841 husband William is a labourer.

1841 has Jane Farrand as a servant in the home of Charles Dunbar Atkinson,a civil engineer, which is quite a number of years before Ruth's birth so it would be difficult to say where Jane goes in the intervening years.

There is a christening for your Ruth on Free BMD - maybe the parish register might hint at the father- sometimes they did.

As Andrea said, proving the master/ servant story may be quite hard but you do have qutite a lot of information about the rest of the family.

best wishes
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« Reply #3 on: Saturday 06 October 07 13:10 BST (UK) »

wish I had read your earlier posts before I did all this- you already know but have just mistyped your names  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #4 on: Saturday 06 October 07 14:06 BST (UK) »

Oh dear.  It does help if you can give links to other posts and make it clear what information you already have.  As Heywood says, very succinctly, it is annoying to waste time redoing work that someone has already produced.
I ought to know by now that I should check other posts!
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