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Warner Green: Baptism look up please: Completed...thankyou
« on: Sunday 07 October 07 23:45 BST (UK) »

Hi

I am trying to find the birth/baptism and hopefully the parents of Warner Green born C1800 Southill Bedfordshire.

many thanks
Tricia


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Re: Warner Green: Baptism look up please
« Reply #1 on: Monday 08 October 07 04:55 BST (UK) »

Hi Tricia

Welcome to Rootschat

Virtually all of Beds marriages and baptisms pre 1812 have been extracted onto the IGI, which you can check out yourself at www.familysearch.org.

You'll find three entries in 1809, two of which are member submissions which are usually unreliable, and the third is the extracted entry which you can rely on (in this case the members have actually got it right)

The parish register transcription adds no further detail to what's on the IGI

For what I would have thought was a unique name I'm surprised that there were two earlier baptisms in the nearby parishes of Meppershall in 1807 and Campton in 1774

You'll also find his parents' marriage in Southill in 1802 - the transcript describes his mother, Sarah Porter as being from Shefford, which was actually in the parish of Campton.

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Re: Warner Green: Baptism look up please
« Reply #2 on: Monday 08 October 07 17:00 BST (UK) »

Hi David

Thank you for the welcome and for your reply. I did find the entry on the IGI and was unsure which one he was. I was hoping the actual record, would give a little more information. His death certificate for 1848 gives his age as 42 so he could be either one. I have not been able to find his marriage although I do have his wife's name. He was not with her in the 1841 census but I think I have him with his mother in Clifton.(miss transcribed as Grun) The mothers of both Warners were called Sarah, so as you can see I have a problem with ensuring I have the correct one.

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Re: Warner Green: Baptism look up please
« Reply #3 on: Monday 08 October 07 17:04 BST (UK) »

What was his wife's name? I'll see if I can come at him from a different direction

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Re: Warner Green: Baptism look up please
« Reply #4 on: Monday 08 October 07 17:11 BST (UK) »

In 1851 living in Shefford was Warner Green unmarried 41 a butcher born Stanford (a hamlet of Southill). So if your Warner died 1848 age 42 then he must have been the Meppershall one

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Re: Warner Green: Baptism look up please
« Reply #5 on: Monday 08 October 07 17:38 BST (UK) »

Hi David

Thank you so much for that, so his parents were John and Sarah.
Warner married Mary Elizabeth Whitteridge, she was from Haynes born c1811.

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Re: Warner Green: Baptism look up please
« Reply #6 on: Monday 08 October 07 17:59 BST (UK) »

Odd that the marriage can't be found; nor can I find Mary's baptism.

The only marriage I can find was Warner Green/Mary Spencer in 1834 at Holborn St Andrew, and I can't find these in any census.

Did they have children?

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Re: Warner Green: Baptism look up please
« Reply #7 on: Monday 08 October 07 18:25 BST (UK) »

Hi
The earliest birth I have is Sarah Elizabeth c1937 (from census
Then
George c1839
Mary Ann c1842
Samuel 1845
Fanny Elizabeth c1848

I have the birth cert for Samuel b1845 in St Lukes born at 22 Pool Terrace. The family was still there when Warner died.
He was a policeman when Samuel was born and still a policeman at the time of his death.
As they were both from Bedfordshire I rather thought they would have married prior to moving to London.

Tricia


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Re: Warner Green: Baptism look up please
« Reply #8 on: Monday 08 October 07 18:47 BST (UK) »

I wonder if it is possible that the Warner Green/Mary Spenser marriage entry could be a transcribing error.
It seems strange that they could not be found on any census. I am able to follow Mary through another marriage and up to 1871 census.
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Re: Warner Green: Baptism look up please
« Reply #9 on: Monday 08 October 07 21:40 BST (UK) »

It's a mystery! The Whitteridges were non-conformists, but that shouldn't affect the marriage. Virtually all of the Beds parishes around Haynes have been extracted onto the IGI post 1812 other than Campton (which includes Shefford) which adjoins Haynes and Meppershall. I wonder if they married there.

The Holborn marriage was taken from Pallots Index and I doubt if there's a transcription error - Whitteridge to Spencer is a bit of a jump

Whilst there doesn't seem to be any doubt regarding Mary Whitteridge it would still be nice to find the marriage!

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Re: Warner Green: Baptism look up please
« Reply #10 on: Monday 08 October 07 22:05 BST (UK) »

Hi
Is it possible Mary Whitteridge was married to a Spencer before she married Warner? I know in that case both names should have been on Samuel's birth certificate but in practice this may not have been the case and she may have just given her maiden-name.

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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
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Re: Warner Green: Baptism look up please
« Reply #11 on: Monday 08 October 07 22:09 BST (UK) »

Hi David
When I mention a possible mistake on Pallots transcription, I am thinking more of including a name from another line rather than miss-reading the name. It seems strange that an uncommon name such as Warner and in the correct time scale should have married Mary (Spencer) and for there to be no sign of them in subsquent census. The marriage will have to remain a mystery for the present

Whitteridge is shown as the mother's name on Samuel's birth cert and I have her in the 1951 census with her brother William as a guest. Mind you Samuel is shown as being with her for the census and he is also with a Whitteridge relative nearby. (must run fast)

Thank you for clarifing which Warner was 'mine' I suppose there will be a connection between the two as I get further back.

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Tricia


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Re: Warner Green: Baptism look up please
« Reply #12 on: Monday 08 October 07 22:11 BST (UK) »

Hi Janan

Now that's a thought that did not occur to me. I will see where that tack leads me.

many thanks
Tricia


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Re: Warner Green: Baptism look up please
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 09 October 07 00:05 BST (UK) »

Tricia

Have a look for Wills ? There are bit and pieces on the Beds Archives search site on the family in relation to land etc so I wouldnt be surprised if there were surviving Wills also

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Herfordshire and West London: Brown [Kent in early 19th C]; Blackwell.
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Re: Warner Green: Baptism look up please
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 09 October 07 10:00 BST (UK) »

Hi Tricia
Have you seen this extracted record on the IGI?

Mary Elizabeth Whitteridge Adult Christening age 26 at Haynes on 11 May 1834 parents William and Martha

This rather makes my previous marriage theory redundant!

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