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McGilvray/Mclean
« on: Thursday 11 October 07 06:12 BST (UK) »

Hello everyone,

I was hoping someone could help me with information on
John McGilvray and his wife Isabella McLean.
They were married in Kilfinichen & Kilvichen,Argyll November 1862.

I'm trying to find John and Isabella (as children) with their parents
on any census.  I've got so confused I can't see the forest for the trees  Huh
John was born abt 1830 and Isabella at 1835.

(I guess when I find them I have to go looking for their children next Undecided
Oh how I wish my seniors moments were less frequent.  I might get somewhere with
my research. Roll Eyes)

Thanks for any advice or information.

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Re: McGilvray/Mclean
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 11 October 07 06:39 BST (UK) »

Would this be John?

1861
Kilfinichin and Kilvickeon Argyll
ED 5 Page 7 Registration  number 542

Address Ardtun

John McCullan  age farmer 80 acres
Niel son age 42 Beet? Builder
Mary  age 30 sons wife
John age 4 grandosn
Niel age 2 Grandson





John McGilvray farm servant age 30 born Kilfinichin Argyll

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Re: McGilvray/Mclean
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 11 October 07 06:41 BST (UK) »

could this be her
1851.
alexander mclean age 45. b. killearnan,argyll. occ. piper.
margaret mclean age 40. b. killchattan,argyll. wife.
isabella mclean age 17. b. ditto. daughter.
living at mill bay,kilbrandon and killchattan,argyll
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Re: McGilvray/Mclean
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 11 October 07 06:46 BST (UK) »

1861
Registration Number 542 ED 3 Page 2
Kilfinichen and Kilvickeon

Address Torrans

With the McKinnons farmers  of 300 acres

Isabella McLean age 27  born Kilfinichen Argylshire Dairymaid
John McGilvery age 31 Ag lab born Kilfinichen

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Re: McGilvray/Mclean
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 11 October 07 06:55 BST (UK) »

had a look on 1861
the isabella i posted on 1851 is still at home in 1861 so she is obviously not the one.

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Re: McGilvray/Mclean
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 11 October 07 07:20 BST (UK) »

There are these John 1851?
1851 ED 3 page 24 parish number 542
Kilpincher?
Burnpan
Argyll
Address Torrans farm

with the Mckinnons and MacDiarmid dau and son inlaw and family
Christy MacGilvray age 35 Dairymaid
Charles Macgilvray servant Herd
John MacGilvray age 19 Joiner
Mary McGilvray housemaid


with other servants and a lodger and visitor
1851
Registration Number 542 ED 5 page 19
Kilfinichen and Kilvickeon
Island of Mull
Argyll
Address Ardturr? Lee

MacGillvray
Mastin Jr age 26 head farmer of 6 acres employing 1 lab
Ann sister agee 34 house servant
Flory sister age 32 visitor
Janet sister age 22 house servant
John MacGillvray age 24 brother Cartwright and Ag Lab
Mary McFarlane niece age 4


also

1851
John MacGilvray age 19 born kilarrow Argyll Sailor

John Mcgilvery age 16 lab born bury Argyll in  Kilfinichen
John MacGilvray age 18 carter born Torosay Argyl
John Mc Gilvray age 17 born Killfinichen with the McMillons Island of Mull

John McGilvray age 16 born Kilfinichen Argyl farm lab at home
Hugh father age 57 crofter and stone mason
Ann age 42 wife
Hector son age 10
Duncan son age 8
Ann dau age 5
Peggy dau age 1 month

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Re: McGilvray/Mclean
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 11 October 07 07:39 BST (UK) »

hello

1841 ??

Kilfinichen and Kilvikeon Argyll
Address Bunessan
Parish Number 542 ED 2

John McGilvray age 46 ag lab born Argyll
Cathrine wife age 35 Argyll
John son age 10 born Argyll
Dugald son age 8 Argyll
Bell dau age 5 Argyll
Marrion dau 2 Argyll
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Re: McGilvray/Mclean
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 11 October 07 08:41 BST (UK) »

To down-under and wozzle.

Wow! Thank you for all your help.

Down-under -  The 1851 census address Torrans farm you listed seems
it might be the one I'm looking for.  Isabella's daughter married John Macdiamid.
Do you have a complete list of all the people at the address?

Also the 1841 address Bunessan might be John.  The names listed seem to follow the names I
have for the family in later years.

Any advice on where I could get all the details from the census would be appreciated.

Thanks to both of you for you help.

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Re: McGilvray/Mclean
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 11 October 07 09:32 BST (UK) »

Hello
I have taken these census off Ancestry for which I am a member. You will have to go to Scotlandpeople I think and pay to view the census pages themselves to see the correct family positions.


1851

Archd MacKinnon age 65 born kilpincher farmer of 200 acres of Pasture 13 lab
Flory Mackinnon age 49 kilpincher wife
Cathrine Mackinnon age 25 servant born Kilpincher
Archd Mackinnon age 24 born glasgow lab servant lab
Donald Mackinnon age 17 farmers son Kilpincher
Duncan MacDiarmid age 50?? son in law Perthshire occupation No Fr of Frion??
John MacDiarmid [i]dau of Duncan age 19 Kilpincher[/i]
Grace MacDiarmid age 1 grandaughter Kilpincher father duncan

James Matheus visitor
Mary Mcneal servant
Thomas Patterson servant
Archd Cambell servant

Reod? Donald MacDonald lodger
Duncan Marleau servant
Angus MacDonald visitor

Plus the Macgilvrays

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Re: McGilvray/Mclean
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 11 October 07 12:02 BST (UK) »

Thank you so much for that Pam.

Looks like I'm off on a new search now.  Smiley

Really appreciate your help,

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Re: McGilvray/Mclean
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 11 October 07 12:35 BST (UK) »

I think this is Grace and Duncan from 1851


1861

Kilochspelvie Argyll
Parish Number 545 ED2 Page 2

Address 1 Rossal
Duncan McDiardem age 50 Farmer born Kenmore Perthshire
Jessie wife age 30 born Kilfinichan Argyl maybe it should have been Jessie not John dau of Archd Mackinnon 1851 census
Flora McDiarmid age 9 dau born Torosay Arygyll
Marion McDiarmid dau age 7 Torosay Argyll
John McDiarmid son age 5 Torosay
Christina McDiarmid dau age 3 Torosay
Georgina McDiarmid dau age 2 Torosay
Archd McDiardem son age 2 months Torosay
Grace McDiardim age 11 born Kilfinichan Argyl

Mary McDonald age 25 Dairymaid born Kilfinichan
Archd McPhaden age 19 Kilfinichan   Shepherd
Ann Paterson age  15 nurse Kilfinichan

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Re: McGilvray/Mclean
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 11 October 07 13:46 BST (UK) »

This is the full details of the McKinnons and Isabella Maclean 1861



Do you have Isabella and John on any other censuses?? I cannot seem to find them after 1861

1861

Flora MacKinnon age 58 farmer 300 acres born Kilfinichen
Donald MacKinnon farmers son age 28 Kilfinichen
Hector MacKinnon age 24 farmers son Kilfinchen
Archd McKinnon boarder pauper born Glasgow age 30
Catherine M L Elliot grandaughter age 16 Kilfinichen


William Macintosh age 65 visitor Pedlar
Donald Campbell age 28 ploughman
Elben Lamont age 15 cowherd

Flora Maclean age 30 Cook Kilfinichen
Isabella Maclean age 27 Dairymaid Kilfinichen
John McGilvery age 31 ag lab Kilfinichen


1871
Dalgety Fife
Bankhead Farm House
ED3 page 3 Registration number 422

Parish Number

Duncan McDearmid age 60 formally farmer Kenmore perth
Jessie age 40 wife Kilfinichen
John son age 15 all children born kinlochspelvie
Christina dau age 13
Georgina dau age 12
Archibald son age 11
James son age 9
Charles son age  6
Duncan son age 4

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Re: McGilvray/Mclean
« Reply #12 on: Friday 26 October 07 11:56 BST (UK) »

Hello Pam,

First of all apologies for not replying to you earlier.
No excuses - just an oversight on my behalf. Embarrassed

Thanks so much for all that information.  I'm still trying to make all the pieces fit into place.

I haven't found Isabella or John on any later census.
I know that they had children Alexander 1863, Marion 1865 and Donald 1867 all born in
Kilfinichen& Kilvicheon, but after that, who knows where they went??

I appreciate your help and if by any chance you come across any more infomation
I'd be grateful.

Thanks again,

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